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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-14 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1959 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1959 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-15 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I wish that comics would just end their franchise storylines and just start over from scratch. Like, not a reboot. Just say "these books are over, we're not making any new books with these characters. It's done. Time for new shit!"

Cause like...if you want to read Harry Potter, you go into the store and ask which is the first Harry Potter book (if you've been living in a cave and somehow don't know), and then you start reading.

But...if you want to start reading comics...where the fuck do you even begin? First of all, nothing ever really ends (no matter how hard DC tries to reboot shit), so you have like decades and decades worth of shit to wade through. Second of all, you're going to have to do some preliminary wiki-ing to figure out any relevant backstory (because you want to at least know wtf is going on with these characters/the story as a whole), then you have to actually find someone who is selling the books that you want to read...

I mean, what other form of media requires such extensive work to even begin to get involved in it? The mainstream comics market is like the very definition of continuity lockout. And I think a large part of that is because stories...never...END. Characters never die for real, and books keep going on forever, they had to invent a damn sliding timescale to even explain how the timelines of their universes make sense at all...it is just ridiculous! Why can't some things just be over...and then they could create actually new stories (that don't have to be crossed-over to death)? No more X-Men, no more Spider-Man, no more Captain America...no more Batman, or Superman, or Wonder Woman or whatever whatever. Just. Fucking. END those stories already.

(I mean, I know why they don't end the stories, because people still love them and they're cash-cows and they will be forever. They're just too entrenched in COMICS. But I think they should at least confine these long-runners to their own series and NEVER cross them over. Ever. It just causes too much damn confusion and too many continuity snarls.)

Basically I just think the mainstream comics industry needs a complete re-haul. And also maybe they shouldn't even be doing monthly serials at all, and should just go to only collected TPBs. As it is now, it's like waiting a month at a time for one episode of a TV show. Sometimes even longer if people are bad at deadlines. But if people were expected to do one whole book/arc at once, released maybe a year or so apart, that would be more reasonable. And also it could create more consistency, because if they wanted crossover stuff to happen they would have to discuss it ahead of time so that stuff made sense.

(I have a lot of feelings about comics. Because I love a lot of the stories, and I particularly love the mythology of the 'verses, but it pisses me off to know end how they have like literally the WORST business model, ever. It's like they're trying to force themselves out of business. I feel like the only reason comics are even getting new readers these days are because of the resurgence of actually good comic-book movies. Without those, I don't even know where the mainstream comics industry would be now.)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-15 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you on all of these points except one: they could reboot already existing heroes. It would be simple, even, for them to just stop producing already existing storylines and then pick up a reboot. I realize why no one wants to do it, but it would be possible.

I'm easy, though, and would gladly take new heroes if it meant I could start at the actual origin of a damn story. >:(

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
They have. Several times. It doesn't help.
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[identity profile] darkmanifest.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, these are all my feelings about comics. I actually think non-traditional media has really helped with getting into them, though: You see a live-action or animated show/movie, read the wiki entries on your favorite characters, select which comic series or era seems most interesting to you (a fair number of them are consolidated in graphic novels these days), and go from there. But since newbies can't start with comics themselves, the medium is completely dependent on their other stuff to keep it afloat and that's not good.