[ SECRET POST #1959 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1959 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 085 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

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[(Anonymous)]

Death to superhero comics and all their trans-media spinoffs. We'd be well rid of them. The genre's a corporately-owned dramatic dead end where the only things that sell are retellings of themselves.

What a waste.

[(Anonymous)]

You're my hero for saying this.

WHOOOOPS.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, shut up.

[crownedapple.livejournal.com]

You sound mad.

[(Anonymous)]

Your tone seems very pointed right now.

[(Anonymous)]

I kinda agree actually. There are good superhero comics, sure, but most of it is crap made by and for grown nerd guys with the emotional maturity of a ten year old. Just look at all the attempts to make superhero comics more mature by loading them with pointless violence and sex. This pandering makes it impossible for anyone else to enjoy these stories.

It's crazy how the american mainstream comic industry is so obsessed with this one concept. Compare it to manga where yes, there are stories about superpowers, heroes, pointless nudity and gore etc but also a lot more. Superheroes can exist but they shouldn't be the standard.

Yeah, waste is the right word. There are many good artists and writers as well ideas there, but finding them is a pain. It's no wonder that many of the most talented people working in the field are kinda sick of their own genre...

[otakugal15.livejournal.com]

*yawn*

[hako-neko.livejournal.com]

The first film did wonders for the Iron Man comics. I'm sure the positive reaction to the movie will affect the comics as a sort of "READ THEM, THEY ARE LIKE THE GOOD MOVIE" in a kind of way.

[(Anonymous)]

It might. The film's insanely popular and it's making a fortune, and I've seen a lot of people asking for comic recs (Black Widow is a particularly popular character).

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because what we clearly need is more racist and misogynistic teen boy wish fulfillment.

[(Anonymous)]

Perhaps not, but we do need more interesting fantasy worlds with epic sprawling stories where escapism is the easiest thing the world and where the American mythology is actually alive.

I read plenty that are neither racist nor misogynistic, though.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

And the whole "turning around" part can't also mean less racism and misogyny because....?

Or are you one of those people who thinks only white geeky male perverts can ever possibly read comics because there's something universally fundamental about the format that can be only be processed and appreciated by people who possess the white male basement-dweller gene?

[(Anonymous)]

You're right. Because Nick Fury WAS TOTALLY BLACK in comic canon.


Also? The movie has an awesome female characters, who are not sloppy romantic interests and don't have maiden in distress issues. Count that times that happened in Marvel Universe.

Just... really, do your research before accusing people.

[the-glow-worm.livejournal.com]

Do you even read comics?

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

In what way? Could you elaborate?

I think this movie certainly opened the door to even more film versions of comics...

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

If that includes undoing all the stupid things they've done with the Hulk since civil War, I want to join you in your world, please.
Actually, if that includes undoing EVERYTHING since Civil War, and includes a Hulk and Iron Man Adventures comic, I'll even pay rent.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

Can I come and play in this universe? Please? I would be pretty much overwhelmed with joy if this happened.

[(Anonymous)]

I live in a dream world where the big companies stop relying on the same tired genres and start branching out and offering opportunities to brilliant "indie" creators (because anything that's not superheroes or the shitty comics in newspapers is indie by default these days) who sorely need the work.

or where they'll just disappear already so we can just move the fuck on, start from the ground up and cultivate a comic culture that won't die off due to sheer lack of diversity or foresight.

[dinerstate.livejournal.com]

Hope: 40% of the opening weekend audience was female! :D

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, it boggles my mind how some of the most successful movie franchises out now are based off comic book heroes, yet the comic industry itself is slowly becoming a dinosaur. The popularity of these movies proves that there is a possibility for it to remain a successful industry, but not the way that it's going in right now. I'm a DC girl, so it's harder for me to judge Marvel in this as well, but the industry is killing itself by being a conservative 'boys only' club, that's trying to live and market itself in the past. They need new and younger creators with fresh ideas, they need to be inclusive and appealing to women and minorities, and stay loyal to older fans, they need to make their monthly issues more accessible and appealing, and focus more on marketing their tpbs. DC tried to remake itself by copying the Batman movies by de-aging its characters, and being more 'edgy', and fell flat on it's face.

Who knows. Maybe with the internet comics are becoming a thing of the past.

/rant

[(Anonymous)]

I wish that comics would just end their franchise storylines and just start over from scratch. Like, not a reboot. Just say "these books are over, we're not making any new books with these characters. It's done. Time for new shit!"

Cause like...if you want to read Harry Potter, you go into the store and ask which is the first Harry Potter book (if you've been living in a cave and somehow don't know), and then you start reading.

But...if you want to start reading comics...where the fuck do you even begin? First of all, nothing ever really ends (no matter how hard DC tries to reboot shit), so you have like decades and decades worth of shit to wade through. Second of all, you're going to have to do some preliminary wiki-ing to figure out any relevant backstory (because you want to at least know wtf is going on with these characters/the story as a whole), then you have to actually find someone who is selling the books that you want to read...

I mean, what other form of media requires such extensive work to even begin to get involved in it? The mainstream comics market is like the very definition of continuity lockout. And I think a large part of that is because stories...never...END. Characters never die for real, and books keep going on forever, they had to invent a damn sliding timescale to even explain how the timelines of their universes make sense at all...it is just ridiculous! Why can't some things just be over...and then they could create actually new stories (that don't have to be crossed-over to death)? No more X-Men, no more Spider-Man, no more Captain America...no more Batman, or Superman, or Wonder Woman or whatever whatever. Just. Fucking. END those stories already.

(I mean, I know why they don't end the stories, because people still love them and they're cash-cows and they will be forever. They're just too entrenched in COMICS. But I think they should at least confine these long-runners to their own series and NEVER cross them over. Ever. It just causes too much damn confusion and too many continuity snarls.)

Basically I just think the mainstream comics industry needs a complete re-haul. And also maybe they shouldn't even be doing monthly serials at all, and should just go to only collected TPBs. As it is now, it's like waiting a month at a time for one episode of a TV show. Sometimes even longer if people are bad at deadlines. But if people were expected to do one whole book/arc at once, released maybe a year or so apart, that would be more reasonable. And also it could create more consistency, because if they wanted crossover stuff to happen they would have to discuss it ahead of time so that stuff made sense.

(I have a lot of feelings about comics. Because I love a lot of the stories, and I particularly love the mythology of the 'verses, but it pisses me off to know end how they have like literally the WORST business model, ever. It's like they're trying to force themselves out of business. I feel like the only reason comics are even getting new readers these days are because of the resurgence of actually good comic-book movies. Without those, I don't even know where the mainstream comics industry would be now.)

[ariseishirou.livejournal.com]

Eh, to each their own tastes and all - I don't get the love for superhero comics, but people don't have to like what I like. I'm sure they have their appeal. If not to me.

See, I don't like melodrama. And I don't like multiple universes. And I don't like people with uberpowers, usually. Leads to too much soap opera storytelling and looping, resurrected cat plots. I'm just not interested. I did enjoy X-men as a little kid, but I got tired of the way nothing ever really went anywhere. I read Watchmen as an adult, and it was okay. It had a concrete story it wanted to tell, themes it wanted to address, and it came to an actual end when it ended. When it comes to the superhero movies they too must have a discrete end and a limited cast and so are more enjoyable. Just because I watched the hell out of the movies doesn't mean I'll pick up the comics, though.

I'm willing to bet there are a lot of people like me out there, though. Comics could gain a wider following if they appealed to the joyless, sepia-grey-brown crowd.

If there are any comic fans still out there reading this: are there any comic series with no superheroes, no superpowers, definite endings, and, hopefully, more sedate character designs? By that I mean zero spandex and humanly possible physiques. The last one like that I read was Crecy, and it was fantastic.