[ SECRET POST #1961 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1961 ⌋

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Comments

[saya22.livejournal.com]

”It's the choice of a monk, not the choice of an Asexual. If he was Asexual, there would be no tension in that, no fun in that – it's someone who abstains who's interesting. There's no guarantee that he'll stay that way in the end – maybe he marries Mrs Hudson. I don't know”! said Moffat.

Moffat did not explain why he thinks Asexuals are not interesting, or anything else Sherlock might have in common in a monk. Sherlock's asexuality has never been cannon. Doyle wrote the original stories long before the creation of Asexual communities.

Source (http://www.asexualnews.com/index.php/entertainment/973-steven-moffat-says-sherlock-is-not-asexual)

Well at least he knows that asexuality is not a choice, unlike Ben /facepalm

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Well at least he knows that asexuality is not a choice

Yeah, exactly.

A lot of people have jumped on the "not the choice of an asexual" comment as him saying asexuality is choice, but if you read he whole thing he's not. He's saying Sherlock's characterization is the choice of a monk; i.e., he's like a monk, not an asexual.
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I'm not explaining it well. But, yeah...

[saya22.livejournal.com]

Yeah, he made a big no-no when he said "the choice of an asexual", but I think it's just to juxtapose with "the choice of a monk" and he probably have no idea how his words may be interpreted as implying that asexuals have a choice. I just wish these people would make an effort to read more into asexuality before making all these statements.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Re: Word choice: Yeah, exactly.

I just wish these people would make an effort to read more into asexuality before making all these statements.

Yeah. You're getting paid to write about this stuff, do some damn research!

[saya22.livejournal.com]

Seriously. It's just like the ending of House's episode with the asexual couple. Cue worldwide ace facepalms and cries of DO YOUR RESEARCH! And when the writer said she did do her research in her faux apology, cue cries of RESEARCH, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

I've not seen that episode, but I've heard about it... d-:

[saya22.livejournal.com]

It started fine enough but the ending is so full of fail it's flabbergasting >_

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, so I've heard... ~_~

[(Anonymous)]

IA. It's his use of abstain that makes it clear he knows it's not a choice.

If he was Asexual, there would be no tension in that, no fun in that – it's someone who abstains who's interesting.

And I'm realizing I actually agree with him on that, at least as far as my personal interest in a character goes. Someone who willingly abstains from something WOULD be more interesting to me than someone who was just wired a certain way.

YMMV, though, of course.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

And I'm realizing I actually agree with him on that

See anon and my comments below...

[(Anonymous)]

If he was Asexual, there would be no tension in that, no fun in that – it's someone who abstains who's interesting.

I think I actually agree with him on that, not going to lie.

[saya22.livejournal.com]

I myself find UST unbearably boring, so we have to disagree on this. Plus it's a piss poor writer who can't think of a good character with a storyline that doesn't involve sex and/or UST.

[(Anonymous)]

How does Sherlock being asexual suddenly prevent any of his relationships with other characters being interesting though? Many asexuals are in committed relationships and if anything there are problems and dynamics that have rarely if ever been explored in TV or film yet. How would a couple where only one partner is asexual find a good middle ground? What pressures would an asexual character face both from their partner and from the outside world? I really lose a lot of respect for a writer who sees a character without sexual attraction and finds no potential.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

How would a couple where only one partner is asexual find a good middle ground?

Exactly. In fact, in this case, Sherlock being asexual would be MORE interesting. If he's just abstaining, he could just... start having sex. But if he honestly doesn't want sex, how would he and a partner who was sexual deal with that?

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

ITA; it would be very interesting to see issues like this explored. There is so much potential!

And Moffat seems to only consider (romantic) relationships to be of value if there is sex, so... yeah. I usually avoid reading his interviews so I can still enjoy his works. XD

[fenm.livejournal.com]

And Moffat seems to only consider (romantic) relationships to be of value if there is sex

To be fair to Moffat, that's hardly an unusual viewpoint in the media; or society in general, for that matter.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

Touché! I really should cut him some slack; he's hardly the only one out there with this mindset.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, exactly.

[saya22.livejournal.com]

I'm actually not surprised about his opinions since most people do have those mindset, I'm more surprised that he did write a good Sherlock that could easily be asexual while he himself believes asexuals are boring. He's a good writer and I have to stop reading his interviews so I can enjoy his works without being irked by his personal opinions.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I can't say I'm personally interested in any of that, but that's all right. YMMV. I can see how it would be interesting for others, particularly asexuals tired of their invisibility.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

Oh Moffat... asexuality IS interesting. Plus, it's so rarely portrayed on TV or in movies, characters who happen to be aces would be a novelty for many viewers out there.