[ SECRET POST #1962 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1962 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Ferris Bueller's Day Off]


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03.
[Community]


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04.
[Big Time Rush]


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05.
[Avengers]


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06.
[The Decemberists]


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07.
[Tim Minchin]


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08.
[The Lizzie Bennet Diaries]


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09.
[Community]


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10.
[The Hunger Games]


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11.
[Nell: The Day Before]


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12.
[Devil Survivor]


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13.
[Homeland]


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14.
[Pippin]


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15.
[Portal 2 & Left 4 Dead]


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16.
[The Avengers, 30 Rock, Psych]


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17.
[FFX]


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18.
[Mad Men]


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19.
[Legend of Korra]


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20.
[Faust: Love of the Damned]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

I agree that hitting a woman for any reason is not okay. BUT it was ONE slap, and she had been coming at him from behind while he was out of his mind due to the breakdown AND the mind control that was put on him. So I think that makes him far from an abusive douchebag. Not only that but there was a long, long story arc dedicated to him saying 'yes, I did wrong', which had him almost killing himself, AND ended up with him and Janet talking things through and fixing their relationship (But not their marriage since Janet had taken advantage of the aforementioned mind control to marry him. But no one ever blames her for that). It had been almost twenty years before it was used as his one definitive characteristic, and I have no idea why that was.
Ultimates' Hank is a consequence of that. They made him the incredibly abusive husband BECAUSE they wanted to make an EDGIER version of how they wanted to see the events on the original version, which couldn't be farther from that. Hell, Peter Parker hit MAry JAne HARDER than Hank hit Janet, without mind controlling issues, and no one calls Peter an abusive husband.

I haven't seen EMH, but for what I've read, it seems that they got HAnk's personality from right after he came to terms with all the problems caused by the yellow jacket/mind control issue.

[lilya7.livejournal.com]

Oh, so that's how it went? I'd think sneaking up behind any superhero at any time would be such a monumentally bad idea...

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

I was a little mistaken. He is with his back to her, in the middle of planning a very stupid attack on the Avengers in order to save himself (The aforementioned mind control), and she comes at him from behind and then he turns and slaps her. you can see the page here: http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/04/15/comic-book-legends-revealed-309/
The interesting thing is that, as that page says: NEITHER The writer nor the ARTIST wanted it to be an actual slap. The idea was that he raised his arms and accidentally hit her. But a misscomunication problem (due to how the comics were made back then) caused the now infamous page.

As the comments also say, the problem is that no one has ever let go of this EVER. Never mind that Peter Parker did worse (hitting MJ when she was pregnant) or that Reed Richards could be an abusive husband (not only he has hit Sue 'for her own good' more than once, he also ignores her, belittles her and constantly talks down to her), but no one cares. Hank Pym hit his wife once, and he's the scummiest person on Earth.

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Reed gets away with so much more shit



Now for those who are wide eyed right now, Sue was actually a supervillianess named Malice in this particular panel. She also got manipulated into being crazy for a bit there. Reed wasn't. Reed was fully sane and unmanipulated when he decided the best way to fix his mind-altered wife was to give her shit and smack her around till she hated him (it makes sense in context, albiet is still horrible)

It worked. It actually worked.

Now, it was an extreme solution to an extreme situation. But on the one hand, we go a guy who was at best only partialy in control of his actions who kinda sorta accidentally backhanded his wife.

On the other hand, we got a guy smacking around a woman who was at best only partially in control of her actions!

How on earth is guy one the guy known for beating his wife to the point where his ultimates incarnation is actually made what everybody called him?

And then, as you mentioned, in this spiderman panel... Everybody was sane and in full control of their actions (except the writers)! And Mary Jane is pregnant! Now granted, this was during a storyline so unpopular nobody wants to remember it exists, but for fuck sakes! Pym is looking better and better, right?

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

It's not about looking better. It's about picking and choosing what parts of continuity are remembered.

While you can excuse Reed's action during the Malice arc, there's also the fact that he belittles Sue all the time. Check Civil War (horribly written, granted, but there it is), or the Infinity War crossover where Sue demonstrates that she's a very capable leader, saves REed... and yet Reed is only concerned with the fact that she's showing too much skin.

Hank Pym hit his wife ONCE. During a story where the writer has said that he never intended for it to be an actual hit. And he memetically turned into a wife beater.

Clint Barton divorced his wife because he couldn't forgive the fact that she didn't save her rapist. And no one calls him a rape-apologist.

I just don't get that cherry-picking of canon.

[marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com]

What the heck is even going ON in that last panel? It looks like Herne decided to leap through a window into someone's house.