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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-18 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1963 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1963 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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17. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I've said this--and variations of this--to myself many, many times. I think that the reality is that wanting to finish some creative endeavor or other pleasurable thing before you kill yourself means that you don't truly want to die. I'm not saying this to put you down, OP. I'm somebody who's tried to off myself more than once, so I don't even have a miniature pony to sit on much less a high horse. Just, in my experience planning and/or attempting suicide fucks your life up worse than it was in the first place, and I'm really hoping you decide not to do it.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I never understood how someone can "fail" at killing themselves. Humans are so impossibly fragile, there are literally MILLIONS of ways to get it done. Not saying that I want you to, but there was even a New York Times best seller book that gave you step-by-step instructions. It isn't difficult unless you're wanting to look pretty or just get attention. If you truly want to be dead, you'll strip down naked, cover yourself in honey, and go piss off some bears in the woods.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't difficult unless you're wanting to look pretty or just get attention.

Oh fuck you.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
We're also remarkably resilient and the human body has a very strong will to live. Also, we didn't always have the internet to look up exactly how much of what would do what. The things that are the most certain to work and are most accessible are very physical and violent and for me at least the problem is that the dumb animal of my body wants to continue living even when my brain doesn't. I got very close through non-violent means. It should have worked but just as my heart wasn't going to be able to beat much longer my body won.

Also, fuck you, you smug bitch.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

there is a time and place for this kind of comment.

this was not it.

(also, your example was horrible. that is in no way a reliable way to kill oneself)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
My example was obviously sarcasm, but my question was legit. I wasn't trying to be a horrible person, just wanting clarity on how one fails at committing suicide. That's it. Lots of resources on HOW, not a lot on how it fails.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Also, no reliable way to kill yourself? I'd like to think that throwing myself off of the tallest building in my town would do the job, or tying cement blocks to my feet and throwing myself overboard would do the trick. Maybe that's just me?

I can see how slitting your wrists or tying to overdose would backfire though.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well ... I might be about to stick my foot in it, lol.

I've spent one summer close to bears, and yeah, the honey thing might work but it would be awfully painful. Plus the sheer animal sense of fear takes over when there's a bear close. Plus the rangers wouldn't ever let you get out of the lodge with honey. (Yes, you were being sarcastic -- I'm just saying that I think there are reasons why the most "obvious" methods don't work on first try.)

Seriously, as for how one fails? I think that any method to ask the question inevitably triggers some pretty strong emotions and defensive responses (as I guess are playing out). In my experience, though -- suicide itself is a battleground. There's some part of your head and heart that still wants a better life, but you don't believe it's possible anymore. You can quite literally get to a point where you don't believe in the reality of your own existence. And those are the moments -- or years -- when you're desperate to get out. As for how you can fail when you want it that strongly -- suicide is something that's kind of hard to research. Not hard as in there aren't the resources out there, but hard as in it feels wrong, it's a battleground in itself too.

OP, though -- I'm with the first commentator -- as long as you're alive, you can still be surprised. And if your fic is giving you a reason to get out of bed in the morning, start another fic before you've finished this one. And another.

I can say that I'm still here because I desperately wanted to see the Buffy finale. (One of my friends asked me if it was worth it, and then had to back up and go, "not that I"m not glad I got to meet you, but I hated the finale" -- and then we both laughed over it.) Just ... find those moments, those little reasons, one day, one moment at a time. Things will turn around, even if it takes years.
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[identity profile] with-rainfall.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
+900

[identity profile] fierceawakening.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think that the reality is that wanting to finish some creative endeavor or other pleasurable thing before you kill yourself means that you don't truly want to die.

I think so too. Having something to do or make = having a reason to live.

Just go from one of those to the next, and you might just be okay, even.

Not saying this to be all XDXD SEE HEALING IS EASY NO WORRIES XDXD or something else belitting. Saying it because it's how, at times, I myself have survived.