[ SECRET POST #1964 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1964 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 105 secrets from Secret Submission Post #281.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

I hated her simply because of how she treated Data. She called him "it," demeaned him at every opportunity, talked about him to the other characters as though he wasn't in the same room, was shocked and contemptuous at the idea that Picard trusted him as much as a non-android crew member, ran scanners over him like he was a computer console more than once, laughed at him when he tried to express individuality, point-blank told him to his face on multiple occasions without even trying to be polite that he was inferior to natural lifeforms, incapable of humanity or achieving any kind of deep moral or aesthetic consciousness, and told him, when he was helping Troi when she in labor, that Troi needed the warmth and compassion of a human, not a cold, dead, machine, and only reluctantly let it go when Troi told her that she wanted Data to be with her.

And it was nothing like McCoy's bickering with Spock, which was what the writers were obviously trying to reproduce -- Spock was semi-distainful of human characteristics, Vulcans are a very powerful group, and he was perfectly able to hold his own in his arguments with McCoy. Data was an android that didn't understand human behavior and desperately wanted to be human and have emotions. Pulaski insulting him for not being human and not having emotions was basically taunting and degrading someone for a disability.

Yes, it's just her treatment of one character, but it says a whole metric fuckton about her character IMO. If you want the true measure of someone, look at how they treat their inferiors, not their equals.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah like Sf-Debris said, Spock could fight back (and he kinda enjoyed doing it too), Data couldn't. Worse, a lot of the time Data wasn't really aware why he was being insulted or talked down to, so he couldn't even start to defend himself. Although it was awfully suspicious the way she fell down that turbolift shaft...after that mysterious computer core breach no one could trace.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, Spock is pretty much Data's opposite, because he wants to suppress his human half as much as possible, while Data wants to be as human as he can. So McCoy insulting Spock is more like saying "oh stop overcompensating, being part-human isn't the end of the world", whereas Pulaski insulting Data is like saying "tee hee, you'll never be anything like a human no matter how much you try you worthless little freak!"

[solarbird]

lol LA Law riff.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

No, I totally agree with all of this.

Another difference is that we meet the TOS crew during their journey, and they already know each other. Bones and Spock trading insults kind of feels like two friends snarking on each other the way friends do in real life. Pulaski just shows up on the ship and starts insulting Data without having that history or relationship with him. It's NOT the same thing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Objection! Bones also just turned up and started snarking like they were buds. We'd already seen that Dr Piper was the ship's surgeon at the start of the series, then he left for no reason given, and then Bones turned up. Yet abother reason I feel aggrieved with the reboot, no mention of Doc Piper who was Kirk's father figure and mentor in the TOS continuity, he was summarily replaced by Pike and never acknowledged.

/nerd

[(Anonymous)]

meh, personally I liked seeing a female character that wasn't sweet all the time.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

Well, all the other characters in TNG were really goody-goody people -- even Worf was the Klingon version of a super nice guy (not an insult -- honestly these days I like going back to a show where no one's really a dick). So she really, really stood out as a major jackass, which might've worked if she hadn't been treated as part of the team just like Crusher had been. And if someone had really called her out on her prejudice and treatment of Data and made her realize how wrong she was to act like that. IMO she might've worked better in DS9 or Voyager, where a lot of the characters were complex jerks who got big arcs and development.

[tiger-pause.livejournal.com]

Haha, my initial impression of any character on TNG is formed by how they treat Data.

If you want the true measure of someone, look at how they treat their inferiors, not their equals.

So true. I always judge someone by how they talk to a waiter/waitress or shop assistant. It says a lot about a person.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

I ripped that quote off from Sirius Black ;)