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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-22 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I work at a college, and here at least whether or not a professor has the safety of tenure has a pretty big impact on how... creative, I guess you could say... they get with their teaching and other activities.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
YES YES YES YES YES

This is so completely true.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Goddammit, fucking tenure. You know, it's great when a professor has tenure and they can do whatever the hell they want with their class and teach in whatever way they see fit, but not when students don't learn jackshit or it becomes Russian roulette whether you pass, get an A, or just straight up fail. I swear to God, some of my professors assign grades by picking names out of a hat. I'm fucking sure of it. It's a damn crapshoot. And I hate it when you've spent all semester studying your ass off, learning the material they've assigned you (and sometimes didn't even bother really explaining, just a "Oh yeah, this thing exists, don't forget to learn it") and you show up for the final and IT'S NOTHING LIKE ANYTHING YOU'VE SEEN IN CLASS OR EVEN IN THE BOOK OR COULD POSSIBLY PIECE TOGETHER FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN. You and everyone around you is sitting there just like, "HOLY SHIT. I'M FUCKED. JUST COMPLETELY WITH A RUSTED PIPE FUCKED." And everyone's just tapping their feet, sighing heavily, tapping their pencils, shuffling their papers and, generally freaking right the fuck out because what do you do? Where do you begin? Should you already start planning on re-taking this class?? Just DAMN!

Uhhh. Yeah, that was a completely off-the-wall, irrelevant rant there. Sorry. Just needed to get that off my chest. D:

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you, anon. In my second semester of graduate school, I had a professor who was really into numbers analysis and assessment, and he told us ahead of time that he specifically designed his exams so half the class would fail. Well, you don't get into graduate school without being something of an overachiever so we were all "yeah, right"... until we got the first exam. And we realized he wasn't kidding.

Then with a later exam in that same class, his TA messed up the copies pretty badly and everyone was missing the last 10 pages of questions. So he left class to go make copies of the remainder of the exam, and he's gone for over 15 minutes. We're sitting in there, unsupervised, with nothing else to do, and plenty of opportunity to cheat off one another or look for answers in our textbooks, but we all knew it was absolutely pointless, so we all just kind of laughed desperately instead. It was awful. Oddly enough, though, he graded papers super easy.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you have had a bad experience. I completely agree with you that some teachers are bad teachers; usually those teachers don't become bad teachers because they've gotten tenure, though. They were bad teachers all along.

Tenure is important for college teachers like me because until you have it, you can be fired for your lifestyle or your religious beliefs or whatever it is that makes you different from the community your college is in. And they don't have to even tell you why you're being fired, just not sign your contract. It's really scary, especially since a lot of the teachers who get denied tenure are the ones who speak out against the kinds of things you're talking about in your comment, the ones who rock the boat against complacency, and the ones who are often the best teachers.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-24 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
True for high school teachers (like me), too. I don't have tenure in the (crazy stupid conservative) state I teach in, so I'm afraid to answer when a student asks me for an opinion. I hate lying to my students, but what else can I do? I already have enough going against me for being Jewish.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-25 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I can't even imagine how much worse it must be for high school teachers.

At least I have the comfort of knowing that the students I teach are legally considered adults and, therefore, I have a bit of leeway in my interaction with them.

I lie or don't say too. I don't lie about the important stuff. I don't allow racism or sexism or homophobia or religious persecution to take place in my class (and I'm sure you don't either). But I don't talk about my *own* religious beliefs or sexuality or politics or anything. It feels just too dangerous.

K-12 teachers can't get tenure in any of the southern states I've lived in either. I didn't even know you *could* get tenure at that level in other parts of the country until I went off to college.