[ SECRET POST #1967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

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Comments

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that SJW tend to ignore class as a decisive factor in people's lives. In my personal experience, poverty is the biggest reason why people are discriminated against, more than race, gender, religion and sexuality. Of course race, gender, etc. add more to the plight, but poverty is the number one reason why lots and lots of people are segregated. That's my experience in my country, at least.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Very much this. Speaking as someone whose been upper middle class, and homeless [bad shit happens], class is pretty big factor in how people are treated in my country as well...but it's something a lot of people ignore.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

I know. It's hard to understand how anyone can ignore how fundamental class is.

[rhosyn-du.livejournal.com]

I strongly suspect it is because a significant majority of SJWs have serious class privilege.

Where I live, I wouldn't say that poverty is definitely the biggest reason people are discriminated against, but it's most certainly in the running. And here, people of color and single women are far, far likelier to live in poverty than white dudes, so there's a lot of intersectionality going on.

Class is the one people avoid talking about the most, though. Like, we have discussions about race and gender and sexuality and religion, and yeah, some people get all huffy that we're talking about this stuff, but man, you bring up classism and poverty, and suddenly you've got 90% of the middle and upper classes screaming "you're just jealous, should work harder, BOOTSRAPS!" It's almost like they're only willing to take poverty seriously as a problem if poor people "admit" that it really is their fault they're poor. Not to mention the bullshit with certain wealthy areas deciding they can no longer be a part of majority lower-middle/lower class city they live in and succeeding to form their own city so their taxes don't go toward poor kids' public education. (Fuck Piedmont, yo.)

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

That's my impression, too. I won't lie, I was raised in a very comfortable middle class household and I recognise I was and am privileged. But it surprises me that classism is so absent of SJ debates or that the fail to see that even the stuff they take for absolutely granted (like Internet access -even at libraries-) is a luxury for most of the human population.

It also strikes as surprising because I live in a mostly white country. Over 85% of the population here is white, so class and not race is the most important factor when it comes to oppression. Of course intersectionality is at play, but that doesn't change the fact that most of the issues these people face are because of their economical situation.

[(Anonymous)]

Poverty is the greatest ongoing discriminatory struggle in the history of human existence.

It's much easier to feel better about "conquering" various contemporary issues than it is to actually change our behaviour towards economics.

This pisses me off so much sometimes.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

I guess it's because change economics means questioning the whole system we live in, which seems harder than identifying other issues. But you are right that it ignores what is the core of the greatest problem humanity has.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, yes. Sometimes, I swear some people have a default response to "we need to change the way things are" ranging from "you communist!" to "no way my taxes are paying for lazy good-for-nothings".

*eyetwitch*