[ SECRET POST #1967 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #281.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

+1

harry potter anyone? I'm not shippy in that fandom and yes the shipper wars were and still are annoying as hell but I could care less about them wanking I never commented taking sides to the extent that some "non shippers" do here. Who cares to participate in the wank. Not my shipper. No one to defend. Not energy to waste.
It makes sense for the shippers to comment to the attacks and get defensive because you're touching what they like, but if it's not your shipper then why you care so much?
so yeah I don't believe in the non shippers crap either, not when people make comments like the ones above.

[(Anonymous)]

I am genuinely a non-shipper (at least for TOS and AOS - I do admit to liking a little Riker/Troi, Dax/Worf and Chakotay/Janeway in my day) believe me or don't believe, my point remains the same. The shipwars have gotten out of hand. Every secret posted on this site either is about it or becomes one in the comments. I care about this for two reasons, one is I'd like to talk about other Trek related topics, and two because it paints the Trek fandom as a whole in a bad light. The type of behavior put on display here is embarrassing for ALL of us, especially considering that the theme of Trek, especially TOS era, is tolerance and equality. I wish both sides would just stop already. I don't think it's too off-base a desire to voice. Go ahead and jump all over me for expressing that desire as you already have. I'm beginning to wonder if the fighting will ever end because its becoming clear that anytime anyone calls your attention to how bad its getting, you get defensive of THAT too. Its not just ships you're defensive of, your defensive over being defensive. I mean, Christ, what does it take to have some peace and some Trek discussions that don't make us all look so horrible on a multi-fandom site where impressions can easily be made?

Let me ask you this, do you think the shipwars have scared anyone off, people who were kind of interested but just out to test the waters, from getting involved in Trek fandom? Because I do think this and it makes me sad. It's not helping the franchise.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

as I feel the same my advice is to avoid fandomsecrets like plague it's the same people arguing here. Believe me both shippers don't argue that much in other places they pretty much ignore each other and talk with only the ones that agree with them anyway, read and post in other communities and fanboards they aren't all bad. Usually the shipper wars are more common where people don't have to register and hide behind anon (the trekmovie site is bad too although the webmaster had banned some users recently so I guess he can read the IP but I don't comment there because it's too messy anyway) If you have tumblr just block the users that you don't like.

[(Anonymous)]

That is definitely good advice, although ST isn't the only reason I come to this site. I have a bunch of other fandoms I follow, too. SG (all of them), SW, BG and FS to name a few. I'm usually better about avoiding the shipwars stuff though I followed this secret because I agreed with OP like whoa. It's like OP is Betazed and took the thoughts right out of my mind. ;)

I don't have a tumblr but I will stay away from trekmovie now that you've warned me (startrek.com can be pretty bad sometimes, too), thanks for the heads-up.