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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-25 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #1970 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1970 ⌋

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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
wait, he was a rapist? i know he was a statutory rapist but i don't remember them saying he raped anyone

sidebar, i have never watched this movie because i loved the book so much i didn't want to ruin it
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
to clarify i mean rape as in non-consensual sex because it was literally non-consensual as opposed to it being with a minor. oh dear i'm going to get shitted on for this aren't i
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still on the fence about statutory rape being actual rape. I get that minors can't consent, but I don't see how consent is any different between a 17 year old and an 18 year old. I get why sex with minors is immoral and illegal but I don't see the consent issue there with older teenagers, seems like they are just as capable of understanding consent as a 19 or 20 year old
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
kanyeshrug. i mean, i agree that there should probably be some reworking of the laws because an 18 y/o getting a permanent record/being a registered sex offender for having consensual sex with a 16 y/o doesn't make much sense to me, but. i can get how it's a sticky legal issue. i mean, you've gotta have a cut-off point somewhere. not to mention how ridiculously difficult it'd probably be to pass legislation in favor of registered sex offenders, whether what they are doing is morally reprehensible or not.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-26 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think it should be that you can't have sex with minors if you're older than 21, but you can when you're 18-21. And that 18-21-year-olds can't have sex with people under 16. Really, makes sense right? Stops 18-21 year olds from having sex with creepily young teens, but no ridiculousness like two 17-year-old teenagers having to stop having sex when one of them turns 18 and wait until the other one turns 18 too.

(I mean really, 16- and 17-year-olds sometimes go to college and live in dorms -- they really can't have sex with their classmates if they want to?)
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, pretty much with you there. but for some reason, the idea of the two extremes based on that age limit (21 and 16) having sex still sounds skeevy to me, though. i'm 21 and would feel really creepy dating a 16 year old.

however, in the grand scheme of things, i don't think a 5 year age gap is weird at all, nor do i think 16 year olds having sex is weird, so it doesn't make much sense for me to feel this way. hm.

anyway, it's varying opinions like this that would definitely complicate legislation such as the reforms you're talking about. soo when you're talking legal issues that deal with a relatively tenuous factor like age you'd have to have some way to scientifically back your opinion in court, even if the opinion seems (and is) logical. know what i mean? i'm really fucking tired and kind of high so i apologize if i sound like an idiot. i just love talking about the law to a degree that both entrances and disgusts me

[identity profile] fadeinthewash.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
however, in the grand scheme of things, i don't think a 5 year age gap is weird at all, nor do i think 16 year olds having sex is weird, so it doesn't make much sense for me to feel this way.

At those ages, a 5 year gap is still pretty big. There are huge differences between, say, a 3 year old and an 8 year old, or an 8 year old and a 13 year old, or a 13 year old and an 18 year old. There are slightly fewer differences between a 16 year old and a 21 year old, but you're still not in the equitable zone that, say, a 30 y.o. and a 35 y.o. or even a 20 and 25 y.o. would be in. Makes sense to me that way, anyway.

[identity profile] wanderkid.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
don't watch the movie. I loved the book, and felt like the movie really missed the point. I'm sure if I had seen the movie first I would have liked it, because technically it's a good movie. But the movie almost totally ignores Chief right up until the end, and so Chief's rebellion doesn't really make any sense. I would love to see a remake that actually tries for Chief's POV, trippiness and all. But that would be a huge challenge, and they'd probably fuck it up.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I feel bad because Milos Foreman directed my favorite movie ever (icon related), but film movie was such a letdown from the book version. I do agree it probably needs a proper remake kind of like Lolita got a proper film adaptation decades later cause the Kubrick version was just LOLWUt
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i heard they sidelined chief, which is part of why i didn't want to watch it. i would love it if they did a trippy remake though. chief's POV really made the book for me, it's a shame that it'd be hard to make it come through properly on film. i mean if we're being real it would be

ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
a tim burton film featuring


johnny depp as Everyone except Nurse Ratched (who is helena bonham carter)

with pending hot topic merchandise and bad mcmurphy/harding fanfic

oh god it started as a joke but NOW IT'S SERIOUS, WHERE IS THIS MOVIE

[identity profile] iwasanartist.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
a tim burton film featuring

johnny depp as Everyone except Nurse Ratched (who is helena bonham carter)

Literally making me LOL.

[identity profile] crownedapple.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Now that the idea has been committed to Internet, it will be made. I hope you're happy.
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
NOT SURE IF HAPPY

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
The secret says "unrepentant statutory rapist", not just "rapist".
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[identity profile] republicanism.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
whoops, read that wrong. i thought "racist" said "rapist" so i was really confused

well then nvm, he's definitely an unrepentant statutory rapist, i remember that much. i don't think he was really supposed to be a "good guy" though. they were basically all assholes. that's why i liked the book so much.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-05-26 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
OOOoh... yeah, those are... kinda different things. I mean, you can certainly be both, but.... yeah...