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fandomsecrets2012-05-25 06:48 pm
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⌈ Secret Post #1970 ⌋
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Stop.
No.
Just.
Stop.
Catelyn loves her children desperately. She would NEVER abandon them or stop loving them. Implying otherwise is really really stupid. Like, REALLY stupid. Everything she does is for the good of her children.
Jon. Is. Not. Her. Child.
He just isn't.
HER LOVE FOR HER OWN CHILDREN IS NOT CONDITIONAL.
Her love for children in the world at large is conditional, yes. And that condition is... being her child.
Which Jon isn't.
Cat is not Jon's mother. It is not her responsibility to be his mother. Yes, it is unfortunate that Jon grew up without a mother. And it would have been lovely if Cat had stepped into that role, but she didn't. And Ned never made any effort to find a nurse or someone else who could fill that role in his life. Jon is not her responsibility. He is Ned's responsibility.
As far as cultural relativity goes, I think there is a balancing act. Expecting the characters to behave as if they are in our world is just ridiculous. But there is a line somewhere, and maybe that line is in different places for different people. Expecting Cat to slip gracefully into a step-mother type role when there is no precedent for that her society is kind of silly. And yet I don't have any trouble condemning Robert for the way he treats Cersei which surely would have been acceptable in Westerosi society.
Maybe that makes me a hypocrite.
I'm ok with that.
I'm not saying what Cat does is RIGHT. But I am saying that what she does is pretty damn human and is especially understandable in the context of her society.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-27 07:26 am (UTC)(link)Okay, but seriously here: Cat does something which is wrong but acceptable in her culture's eyes out of grief. It's not the worst thing she could have done, but it's not good. Robert does something which is wrong but acceptable in his culture's eyes out of grief. It's not the worst thing he could have done, but it's not good. Cat is a good mother who shouldn't be blamed for it. Robert is a bad husband who should be condemned for it.
Yeah.
That's hypocritical. I'm pretty sure that prevents you from fairly arguing the point, because for whatever reason you're biased toward Cat.
Just saying.
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