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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-07-17 05:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #193 ]


⌈ Secret Post #193 ⌋

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[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me preface this comment by saying that I am not religious by any stretch of the imagination,. And if you're going to pull out the Martyr Meter of Religion, I feel obligated to let you know that I am a lesbian. O SNAP. CONDEMNED TO HELL?!

I still find your comments ignorant.
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Argh, that came out wrong. Then again, would you have preferred that I'd bullshitted and pretended it wasn't a personal thing?


And btw? You defeated your own point by feeling the need to point out you're gay. It's a problem if I say that but it's okay if you do?

It's not martyrdom, that would be if I was saying 'OMGTHE BIBLE ISH SO MEEN TOO MEE!!!', I used to be religous until I read enough of it to think otherwise. It's based on very outdated ideas when it comes down to it.


But then again, judging by your last comment and your ignoring my 'I'd rather not discuss this for fear of wank' comment just makes me think you wanted to argue with someone.

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just showing you that being gay isn't a good reason for bitterness, bb. I wasn't disproving anyone's points, mine or yours. I prefer to love everyone with open arms. I know a lot of people with issues with religion--even religious people!!!1--but to use those issues to validate painting an entire faith (well, several different faiths actually) with many different people in it as uniformly anti-gay, anti-woman, and anti-diversity is just. Ew.

Not everyone sees their faith the same way. And not everyone reads the bible in the same way.

And no, lol, I don't want to argue. But I'm doing it anyway because I think that you are being silly.
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Woah woah woah, I never said that I think every follower of a religion agrees with everything in it...and if you interpreted what I said as that, then I can understand you being pissed off. ._.

As I've said in other places in this convo, the bible has some very dated ideas about some things, even if for the most part it's ideas/principals are good. I personally didn't want to stay religious and only follow the parts, not the whole, but I'm fully aware that many people do.


I can only hope that it's been a cleared up misunderstanding, hence why I'm not going to reply to your last sentence right now.

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Many people have studied the bible their entire lives and there still is no universal consensus on what many passages mean. I mean, I've seen some incredibly convincing evidence that there are some passages in the bible that are actually quite pro-gay. Then again, it's all interpretation. How you read into things. Yeah, some of the ideas are incredibly dated, but that's only if you take it literally and don't treat it like it was actually written by a few dudes, not god.

But ~whatevs~ you've cleared yourself up. Sorry for taking what you said the wrong way. Because yeah, I really thought you were saying something else there.
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Aha~ Yeah that's what I was prattling on about in a comment below. The amount of times it's been copied back out and translated...someone could easily add something in. And right back to the beginning with the original copies, as you say, it wasn't like it was 'god' or similar who wrote it. Getting me thinking, actually. ^^;


No problem, I'm just glad it got sorted out. ^_^

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I was just showing you that being gay isn't a good reason for bitterness, bb.

I don't know, in the context of Christianity and the violence against us associated with the religion, is seems plenty reason to me.

(clarification: against the RELIGION, not all people who practice it)
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
....well yeah, I was thinking that too, but I left that point to rest. XD;;