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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-08 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1984 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1984 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
And on top of that, I also don't like the insinuation that there aren't people who actually enjoy the "menial jobs". There are people who like office jobs, cleaning, retail, factories, supervision, managing, etc., but unfortunately there are more of those available than there are people who like them.

But yes, the few times I've heard it said by someone I know, it was in school, by people who definitely hadn't started working yet.

There is no shame in contributing to society and making money from it, even if they're not activities you enjoy. There are so many things that need to be done for the world as we know it to function.

It also gives this idea that is either college or nothing, as if there aren't other cool jobs besides the ones that a diploma (should, but doesn't really) "guarantees".

What about technical schools? What about being self-employed, what about teaching, what about being a social worker, what about, well, everything else? (sorry, I'm not at top mental shape right now, those were off the top of my head)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
NA

Except those people are also usually told by everyone - starting with their family - that they can "do so much better than those types of jobs" and "why would you settle for that when you can be anything else!"

Which is how you end up with college graduates loaded with debt after going to the most expensiveness school there is because their parents insisted they HAD TO DO BETTER than a menial job... but there are no jobs because everyone else did the same thing.

Meanwhile the world falls apart because no one wants their kids to have "menial jobs" ...

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
SA

*expensive - I have no idea what the hell I was trying to type originally...

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, definitely, it isn't an idea that sprung inside their minds out of nowhere.

And it's not just the parents. There is an incredible pressure in High School to go to college and study a career, any career.

A classmate of mine said that she actually wanted to settle down, marry and have children, and boy, was she booed for it.

They make it sound like it's either college or failure, and, while it's totally okay to encourage students to do their best, there is such a thing as forcing them down a path that might or might not be for them.

And finding out how much money those schools receive to promote a specific college... that left a bad, bad taste in my mouth.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Exactly... though in my case it was mostly my parents. Granted I have a disability so they probably felt like it was even more imperative to prove that I could succeed in anything I wanted. Which is a worthy goal, but not at the expense of my financial future.

Honestly knowing what I know now I definitely would have fought my parents harder about NOT going to college. At least not right away. Instead I would have worked harder to find a job that was relatively decent - maybe some office work instead of retail. And taken a few college courses at night or something to work towards a degree if I really wanted too - but first I would have figured out EXACTLY what I wanted a degree in instead of wasting 4 years without knowing what degree I wanted and then having to take an extra year just to finish because the college kept insisting that it was okay to "take your time to figure it out" - no it really wasn't...

80,000 in debt that I'll probably never be able to pay off since the maximum I can afford right now for payments is about $300 less than what the interest costs each month is not worth having a college degree.
thene: Frank at the end of TTS, with his facemask open. (frank)

[personal profile] thene 2012-06-09 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon :( that's pretty much what happened with me although I got out of it with a lot less debt (~$20k) I wanted to work for a few years before college but parent said he'd only help me pay for it if I went right away. It was a happy experience but not even kind of worth the debt as the practical value of it was zero and it only took a couple of years of real work experience to figure out what kind of work I was actually good at doing; so joy, now I might need another degree.

Are you on income based repayment? (asking this because I've gathered that there's surprisingly many people who qualify for it but don't use it.)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That's what I'm on actually and I can afford the payments but there's still the issue of the interest being more than what the payments are each month - so I'm never paying towards the actual amount, just to some of the interest that accumulates each month. It's ridiculous right now. I'm just hoping in a few years I can use the job experience to find a higher paying job in a similar area because I like what I'm doing now.
thene: Frank at the end of TTS, with his facemask open. (frank)

[personal profile] thene 2012-06-11 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, IBR is going to get amazingly ugly in a couple of decades when people start getting tax bills for their cancelled debts. :( Best of luck in finding a way out of it, anon.
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[personal profile] thene 2012-06-09 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I do think this is a little off-track at this point as anon is specifically talking about 'following your passion' versus 'making money', but, I agree completely.

It's not even about the job or the money, with some wide-eyed passion-followers, it's about the status. They can't believe that anyone would be content with their $60k store manager job when they could be earning $30k at a degree-required desk job instead, or earning $60k as a lawyer while nursing $150k of tuition debt. Most adult Americans (more than 70%) do not have a college degree. Some of them are wealthy and many of them are happy. Saying that they aren't doing anything worth your consideration gets extremely classist extremely fast.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
DA

The market for teachers sucks too.