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⌈ Secret Post #1986 ⌋

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I read the book, and their actual purpose felt kind of beyond the point? It felt like a reason to put them into a situation where they were considered non-people and eventually having to give up their organs until they died was just how it went. The awfulness wasn't really about having to give up their organs, but how they thought it was perfectly normal that this is how their lives would go. At least that's how it was for me personally- I took the book more as a metaphor for how conditioning someone to embrace their place at the bottom of the heap is a really insidious and effective way to oppress them. I've seen shades of that in my own life, and it's a really interesting thing to write about and the reason I love the book.

I am totally in favor of organ transplants, both in terms of "it's pretty cool to volunteer your innards for other people after you die anyway" and "we should work on figuring out how to grow specific organs because that's more effective anyway". I don't understand what it would be like to see forced organ donation be constantly played for horror when you owe your life to voluntary organ donation, and I'm sorry that's probably not a great position to be in. At least in this book, though, it's sort of just there to be the worst possible form of exploitation- and raising someone up just to involuntarily take parts of their body bit by bit sort of is the worst possible form of exploitation, even though voluntary organ donation is a really good thing.

I don't know about the movie, but the book made it pretty vague as to what's actually going on- the clones weren't clones of specific people they'd provide organs to, but there might have been something done to make them more compatible with anyone? Again, it's really not the point.

Yeah, I don't think it was ever supposed to portray what was going on as the most feasible way to do things. It was more about what it made you think/feel. A lot of people (and I would agree) say that it's not so much about cloning as it is about mortality. Or, as you say, exploitation. Or (and I agree with this, too) childhood, and how few people are really honest with children about life and what's really going to happen to them. (I mean... Look at the little subplot with Ms. Lucy, why she was fired, etc.)

Another interesting thing is that it didn't take place in the future. It took place in an alternate timeline where we had cloning figured out in the 50s. And I think there are a lot of ethical issues that got "sorted out" in the mid 20th century that we're only just not revisiting and realize that we might have gotten some things wrong.

Ah... Yeah, reading more about the movie and Book, I see that it's metaphorical... interesting.

Thanks. (-:

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