[ SECRET POST #1986 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1986 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 119 secrets from Secret Submission Post #284.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0- not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 2 - going to have to be a little more subtle than this ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Actually, uh, no, but thanks for being a dick?

I feel I remember things accurately to a point, but there are nuances and details I may be forgetting at this very moment. I am also concerned about accuracy because of people like you who are likely to use any minor, tiny mistake about anything ever to discredit my entire argument, because for some weird reason, proving that Loki was not emotionally abused is very important to you.

And I've been in here on and off, not continuously for hours. Please don't flatter yourself by thinking arguing with you and others like you has really been that important to me. :) If you simply must know, my girlfriend is at work and I've spent much of the day being spectacularly bored, watching anime on Crunchyroll and doing some chores, and in between that I've posted here. It takes me about a minute or less to post a reply. It.. really isn't all that time-consuming.

It's kind of weird that you think my replying more than once means I'm ~really invested~ or something to the point that my not wanting to launch into a thousand-word analysis of the movie Thor and the possibility of Loki being emotionally abused discredits everything I have to say and is somehow strange.

[(Anonymous)]

uh, personallyI haven't said a word to you on the substantive matter of whether Loki was or was not emotionally abused. News flash: not everyone is out to get you. Some people might have been interested in genuinely examining different viewpoints from a textual basis but found it hard when one side of the argument amounted to little more than 'he was because I say he was and also because he got teased that one time I remember.'

Though I do admit that at this point I'm more amused than anything else. And still couldn't care less what did or didn't happen to Loki, his childhood angst doesn't float my boat.

(nad you've been posting pretty far and wide and fast for someone here "on and off." If you were so bored why didn't you do that rewatch you claimed to be happy to do to support your position?)

[(Anonymous)]

I apologize then; I mistook you for one of the previous anons.

I have argued my point kind of extensively, I felt? I did bring up examples in the canon. I also feel like other people could look at the movie themselves and see what I meant.

(And yet, on and off it has been! And there are several reasons I didn't just rewatch Thor:
1. I don't have it available.
2. I'm trying to take a break from excessively rewatching those movies because I don't want to stop enjoying them from watching them too much.
3. As I pointed out, I wasn't continuously on the computer anyway. I was also doing chores and things, making phone calls, and so on.
Which... are not really things I should have to tell you, because I don't believe I have to justify what I do with my time, but whatever.)

[(Anonymous)]

Okay I'll take a step back and stop being sarcastic.

But yeah, no, I'd just suggest considering closely that more than one person clearly doesn't- even after reading all the threads- feel clear at all on where your sense of Loki is coming from. I don't think everyone is just being utter dicks. Some are but this if f_s, what can you do? others I believe would be totally up to discuss politely but are stuck at a vague-at-best idea of where your view is rooted in the text.

and to be fair there are a lot of fucking lunatics out there who defend Loki for completely shit reasons that eventually look a lot like finding TH hot and wanting to retcon the character so they can happily sexify him up without guilt. There are also people who- and I'll give you credit as probably one of them- just dig the complex villain and see the nuances. It's just really hard to distinguish one from the other when your specifics are lacking and you let the assholes get to you and provoke reaction so you LOOK like just as much a crazy internet arguer.

#1 Fair 'nuf
#2 better not be an actual possibility or I am SCREWED fuuuuuck.
#3 i as being a dick, sorry. but see above re probably better to let that shit slide a little more so your more valid points don't get lost in the bickering shit

[(Anonymous)]

I appreciate that.

I admit I was more vague than I'd like to be, but yeah, a lot of people in this post have been ultra-nitpicky and kind of jerks to me and I didn't feel like arguing all effing night over this? (I try to keep my comment threads just long enough that my gf gets home around when I finish, lol.) I did have some nice convos in other threads, though.

I get what you mean, yeah, but... yeah, I definitely fit into that second category. I don't want to defend Loki or make what he did somehow "okay" -- nothing can do that. What he did was wrong and horrible. But I love to explore character backgrounds, nuances, and that kind of thing. Especially complex villains, because so little media bothers to complexify their "bad guys" and venture into that gray area of "his feelings were maybe justified but his actions were not."

I'll readily admit this thread probably wouldn't have gotten to me so much if I hadn't already been kind of raw from the accusations that I was "projecting" before, a tone which was repeated somewhat in places here. Sorry about that.

But yeah.... basically I feel there is a lot of canon evidence that points in the direction of Loki having been emotionally abused, not everybody will read it that way, but I think it's a valid interpretation? And everybody can have interpretations. And it's cool. And I'm actually gonna mostly peace out now because I need to chill after this thread. <3

[(Anonymous)]

It's kind of weird that you think my replying more than once means I'm ~really invested~

Yeah, you are definitely not invested in this at all.