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fandomsecrets2012-06-13 07:01 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-06-13 07:01 pm
[ SECRET POST #1989 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1989 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 01:25 am (UTC)(link)Wowwwwww. How about the unpleasant, cheap feeling of violation and disappointment and/or futility an author feels when they realize some creep stole what they worked really hard on and slapped their own name on it like a gross, inconsiderate hack?
But seriously, the 'plagiarism doesn't count as long as you have talent!' thing has been done to death in her defense and it...still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. If someone works to create something and somebody else takes it and claims they did the work, you might not always be able to arrest them, but it still makes them an ass.
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I know this is a slippery slope, that some things it's common sense to feel harmed by, and some things it would be absurd, and it's really hard to untangle what falls on which side of the line, especially when dealing with people who have been raised on other moral systems.
This is why I hate arguing harm-based morality with people, because people can, for example, argue for the death penalty on the grounds that the family of the victim would be harmed every day by knowing that the convict is still alive, or say that society is harmed when people do drugs or when poor people collect government assistance. People will reach for any imaginary scrap of harm to justify what they actually believe. It's much more difficult than you'd think to step back, let go of what you feel should be considered wrong, and look for the actual harm.
You believe that plagiarism is wrong. That belief is the only thing causing the harm when you find out you've been plagiarized. And I mean, violating? Dude, rape is violating. Having someone copy words from a book you had published and sent all over the world or a script that was broadcast on national television and went into syndication and DVDs and OMG you didn't have perfect control over how people interacted with your words, someone used your punchline in a fanfiction, that's not really violating, get over yourself.
And arrest them? Seriously, do you hear yourself? Arresting is something that's used far too much anyway. You seriously want to take away someone's freedom of movement, restrain them like they are a danger to society, put them in a box and put their entire life on hold, because they dared copy your precious words? I...I can't even.
A plagiarist may well be an ass. But them being an ass in a way that honestly, seems to hurt themselves more than anyone else (by stifling their creativity and damaging their reputation, as well as probably lowering their confidence) does not entitle you to cry violation and take away their personal liberties, Jesus Christ.
(And since I know someone is going to just read this comment and take things out of context, no, I am not saying all plagiarism is always okay, I gave an example in my other comment about how plagiarism could cause harm, and it's wrong when it does.)
Also, I am not saying that CC having talent invalidates her plagiarism. She has talent, in my subjective opinion. She's been widely shown to borrow passages from other works in her free, not-for-profit online writing. It's surprising that she chose to do that considering she had talent anyway, but I don't view the morals of her choice any differently than I would if I thought she was an untalented hack who couldn't string a single sentence together on her own. Nor do I believe talent can be erased by also doing something someone might have a moral problem with. Even if she were a serial killer, I'd still think she was a pretty good writer.