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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-14 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #1990 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1990 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Calvin and Hobbes]


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[Golden Sun]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Beyond: Two Souls]


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[Veep]


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[John Cooper Clarke]


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[Kristen Stewart]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]


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[The Social Network]


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[Ray Bradbury]


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[Protomen]


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[Hamish & Andy]


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[Falling Skies]


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[Hetalia]


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[Legend of Korra]


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[Dragon Age: Origins]


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[Minecraft]


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[Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable]


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[Avengers]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 025 secrets from Secret Submission Post #284.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody thinks you actually want to support eugenics. Relax. But you're clearly unconscious of some really troubling links between that and the disconcerting claims you're making about bloodlines and genetics here.
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[personal profile] honk 2012-06-15 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
i see the links in the mindset but i don't see how people are getting angry at me for pointing out genetics in ancestry unless they're accusing me of supporting eugenics. there's a difference between acknowledging objective genetic/biological differences in ethnic people and thinking some people shouldn't be allowed to breed. @___@

so overall i don't see what's so disconcerting about ancestral genetics being brought up as a point of discussion.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, because what you think you're pointing out about ancestry and genetics is not as factual as you think it is, and the mistakes you're making are the ones whose main use (besides being wrong on the internet I guess) is rationalising eugenics. You have good intentions, I am sure, but you would benefit from learning more about the history and context of eugenics&genocides and ideas of race/ethnicity, so you don't keep mistakenly repeating the stuff that we usually hear only from people with distinctly nasty ideologies about "ethnic cleanliness".
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[personal profile] honk 2012-06-15 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
lmao @ your condescension, how cute

i'm not "wrong" but you're more than welcome to enlighten me as to what exactly you think i'm "wrong" about. biological parameters, for like the 4th time, are factually present in ethnicities and races. if i were to say these parameters were detrimental to society, then yeah, you'd have a point. except i'm not fucking saying that at all, and you're just seeing what you want to see in order to be offended by something that isn't being said.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Looking through the thread, the problem is that those sorts of arguments have been made as excuses to persecute or oppress people, rather than as the neutral, matter-of-fact sort of information they all should be, aimed at medicine and health-related fields to help people. (And not "help" as in "your genes are inferior, we must stop you from propagating" bullshit that so many hate-groups have tried.)
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[personal profile] honk 2012-06-15 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
so why are you projecting hate groups' mentalities onto me when it's obvious that i'm coming from the matter-of-fact perspective
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[personal profile] honk 2012-06-15 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
wait sorry i didn't realise you were a DA until i posted

(Anonymous) 2012-06-15 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's cool.

I agree with you, for whatever it's worth, but this is the result you're risking when for some reason or another, you don't know or take into account the different contexts that people are coming with when they look at internet posts and such.

I say this as someone who has stumbled headfirst into wank landmines for coming from a different culture where discriminatory problems come in a different flavor than, say, America, where there is a bigger percentage of immigrants from a huge number of different places in the world, compared to other countries, and so the social problems are of a different variety than I ever expected. (Not that America is the only place where this sort of thing happens, obviously, but I'm just using the first example that came to mind!)