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⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peter Gabriel]

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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]

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11. [WARNING for abuse]

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[Hetalia]

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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
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[Video Games Awesome Live]

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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]

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[American Horror Story]

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18. [WARNING for dub-con, grooming, brainwashing]

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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]

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Wholeheartedly agreed.

I do take triggers seriously, but Jesus fucking Christ, it's unreasonable to expect that you should warn for everything that might POSSIBLY be a trigger. There are definitely things you should warn for, yes, but I don't think "ableism" is one of them. (I'm speaking as someone who has a disability (an autism spectrum disorder, to be exact) and finds the very term "ableism" to be HORRIBLY overused, though, so I may be a bit biased anyway.) And if it's something the character would say or has canonically said, there really shouldn't be any need to warn for it.

Another thing is that some people (myself included) are triggered by things that aren't commonly thought of as triggers. For instance, in my case, the names Nick, Laura, and Kate bring back some pretty awful memories--not quite a trigger per se, but it's not exactly a comfortable experience seeing those names. And yet I don't go around saying "TRIGGER WARNING: THIS FIC MIGHT CONTAIN THE NAME OF SOMEONE WHO HURT YOU" or whatever. That would be silly.

tl;dr I think trigger warnings have gotten way out of hand, and also that "ableism" is such an overused thing to bitch about that I honestly cannot take it seriously anymore.

And yet I don't go around saying "TRIGGER WARNING: THIS FIC MIGHT CONTAIN THE NAME OF SOMEONE WHO HURT YOU" or whatever. That would be silly.

Definitely. I've actually run across people complaining about names in canon or fic being triggery on two separate occasions. I completely understand why a name would be triggery for a person, but I really have to eyeroll is someone complains about running across a name like they should have had a warning first. You can't warn against a name without naming the name and causing the person distress anyway! There's also the "What about real life?" problem the anon mentioned above. If the name is common enough, there are going to be people out there with the same name who never did anything wrong and shouldn't have to warn people that they... have a name, I guess.

are you fucking kidding me.

where do you people hang out, like, i've never even come close to seeing people complaint about triggery names

NO KIDDING. I mean shit man, I would never expect someone to warn for spaghetti or the name Liz (..yes, spaghetti is tied to a bad experience, I WISH I was kidding!)

I agree that you can't automatically expect everyone in the world to know all of everyone else's triggers, but if someone who reads your fic has mentioned that a certain thing is a trigger, why is it not a good idea to warn for it? If you *already know* that some people in your fandom circles are triggered by ableism, why not let them know that your fic might contain it? You can't expect people to be psychic, but you can expect them to acknowledge things that they know about, even the more obscure ones.

Let me put it this way: it's shit we deal with irl. All the time. It's like warning for racism or homophobia. Yeah, it might trigger someone (I seriously doubt 90% of people using the word trigger are honestly using the word correctly), but if you're really worried about triggering someone, don't write about it. If you want to make sure no one's offended, don't do something offensive.

To me, it's the point of the matter. I find it really entitled that people think they have the right to be warned for everything under the sun. I also find myself raising an eyebrow when an author seems to be expected to fall down apologizing when someone mentions that they were triggered be the story. Offer sympathy, sure, and even warn if you want to, but I don't get this "OMG, I'm so sorry!" thing. It puts blame on a person who hasn't actually done anything wrong. The whole situation just makes me uncomfortable.

I've seen someone add a trigger warning to someone else's post because they used the word 'derp' once in a huge wall of text.

I'm not against trigger warning for ableism, but I agree that it's overused.

..wh..

..I don't even..

"TRIGGER WARNING: THIS FIC MIGHT CONTAIN THE NAME OF SOMEONE WHO HURT YOU"

I get unpleasant feelings when I read the name "Sarah". Can you put a warning on your fic if your OC is named Sarah? Thanx.

What would be nice is if people wouldn't include it. If a character is regularly ableist, you don't need to warn. If they're not, why is it necessary to the fic? Just don't be ableist.

Yeah, I'm a staunch defender of basic warnings (violence, rape, etc) but getting super specific about every single thing when you have no idea what every trigger can be is just going way too far.

I agree about the names thing. Seeing the name Colin can bring back very, very triggery memories for me (I can't even look at the screen as I type it) but I don't expect anyone to warn for a NAME. That would be ridiculous.

For me, it's Marian and Shelli. I also can't stand seeing "Sassy" anymore.

As a name or as the word for someone who talks back? Or both? :(

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