[ SECRET POST #1998 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peter Gabriel]


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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]



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[Hetalia]


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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
http://i.imgur.com/SjfD3.jpg
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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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18. [WARNING for dub-con, grooming, brainwashing]



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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #285.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (warning for rape) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

asexuality was not a thing in the late nineteenth/early twentieth century.

so no, it's absolutely not a done deal that holmes was asexual in the original canon.

[lielac]

Yeah it was a thing. It was a nameless thing, but it was something humans could be because I seriously doubt humans only started being capable of being asexual in the last less-than-hundred years. Just because something doesn't have a name doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Things are given names because someone realizes this thing needs a term to tie a definition to, the name doesn't create what it's connected to.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, but your knowledge of cultural anthropology is severely lacking if you think such absolutist statements as the ones you've made here are really how it works. People absolutely do look to established cultural patterns to try and figure out who they are; they don't work out who they are in a vacuum and say "Well, if there's an existing identity that matches me in every detail, I'll accept it; otherwise I'll create a new category for myself!"

Now, your point that frequently the phenomenon exists long before the words to describe it is well-taken. But you can't do as OP did and say "The fictional character Sherlock Holmes absolutely without question belongs to this category of 'asexuality' that was only recognized long after Holmes' creator had died." There is simply no way to be that sure that what Doyle had in mind back then falls within the circles as we draw them more than a century later.

[(Anonymous)]

It was probably included under "celibate" or "confirmed bachelor". Was there a distinct term for not having an interest in sex? No. Did a lack of interest in sex exist? Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Ever heard of monks? I'm pretty sure a lot of them were asexual.

NAH

[(Anonymous)]

PEDERASTS AND PEDOPHILES. You might want to look up residential schools, fool.

Re: NAH

[wauwy]

Monks, seriously? They have hardly any access to young boys and girls. Most of them I've known are clearly gay, yes, but gay =/= pedophile.

Priests, on the other hand...

[(Anonymous)]

More politely than the above anon, but how on earth do you know? Monks were celibate (or suposed to be) but the literature is full of stories of temptations and falls from grace.

[(Anonymous)]

There were/are a lot of different reasons for entering the priesthood or a monastic order.

There could be pure religious devotion (and I'm sure there was more than a little "My devotion is greater than yours because I gave up something [sex] I actually want" going on).

There was the whole "You are the youngest son and as such you inherit nothing and we can't afford to get you started in a trade. Go be a monk or something, I guess?"

Depending on the situation, a woman could actually have had more autonomy as a nun than if she married, so I can see why it would be an appealing choice, even if it meant no sex or children.

Meanwhile, there would have been plenty of people with no interest in sex who had to have it anyway because they had to produce an heir or please their husband or otherwise do their duty.

[(Anonymous)]

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