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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-22 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1998 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peter Gabriel]


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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]



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[Hetalia]


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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
http://i.imgur.com/SjfD3.jpg
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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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18. [WARNING for dub-con, grooming, brainwashing]



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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #285.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (warning for rape) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-06-23 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I see your point. But there are generally one or two characters in any fandom I'm in that I can't really see submitting (or dominating), and if you ask me why not, I will explain how I see them and why I don't see it. If you then get all up in my grill and tell me I'm unimaginative (rather than saying "I disagree" or "I love the fic that reverses that, but it's rare," or something like that), I will probably be annoyed.

Because every time I've had this conversation, people's rationale has been "People who are really take-charge in their ordinary life crave surrender in bed." And yes, that's true for some people. Many, actually.

But you know what? Just like people get tired of "tall masculine top and feminine, small bottom," I get tired of "Submissives are take-charge types!" People are people and people are all different, and the idea that people are the opposite of how they are in regular life in bed doesn't always make sense to me anyway. Some people hide aspects of their lives and only bring them out in secret, sure. But other people are pretty much themselves everywhere.

I don't mind at all when people go "I love it when people write fic where this person submits. It's hot." I might not get it, if that's one of the characters it just doesn't make sense with in my mind. And if it's the "Big Boss Type just wants to relax" trope, I might feel like it's a little stale. But none of that matters to me, really. It's just when people assume that because I said "You know, I don't see it, but your fic almost makes me believe it" I'm dissing them somehow that I get annoyed.

And that's how "You have no imagination" felt to me, but I realize you were being imprecise so I already feel kind of bad about harping on it. Now that I know you didn't mean it the way I took it I really feel like crap for that. I appreciate you listening to me, though.

(...and... people think Captain America doesn't sub? Buwha? I totally see it. He's adorable!)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's fair. You're at least willing to consider alternative interpretations. Many people are not.

Yes, the "big boss wants to relax" trope is rather common. It's because it's so common that I'm frankly surprised that many people in fandom seem to never have heard of it.

(I don't know about movieverse, but every comicverse fic I've read has Steve as the dominant one.)