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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-24 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2000 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2000 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-24 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

Last time I checked, the Asgardians of Marvel were aliens. Not the same gray aliens as Stargate, but they are an alien race.

OP, if you have to rationalize it, think of it this way: Lightning was the gods fighting before we understood what it was, right? For years and years and years we came up with fantastical explanations for things that we now know the science behind. But, just imagine that, if centuries ago someone who could harness the power of lighting and throw mountains showed up, even once or twice. They were just fighting their war, but to the mind of someone who couldn't do that they had to be something more. Something amazing. GODS even. Of course, they only saw them once or twice, and from the middle of a war. Details get forgotten. Things are hazy. Maybe, two generations down the road, that man who was throwing lightning around, his hair "looking like it was on fire and shining brightly" became a redhead in the myths created about the fantastical beings with which humans had only limited context with. People who were fighting next to one another (or possibly WITH one another) became brothers, because that makes for a good story, or because one generation forgets the "in arms" part of brother-in-arms. Slowly the edda become the mythology of humans, while the aliens just go on their way being themselves, until we reach modern day and suddenly the fantastic beings are back.

TL;DR: Stories evolve, especially stories that have been translated into different dialects and languages, and before that were only passed down through spoken tradition. Use that as the reason Marvel Asgardians =/= the eddas.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2012-06-24 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Good tl;dr!

Another anon has said something below that combined with this comment has reminded me that a lot of the "designated villains" in older mythologies didn't even start out that way as well. They were a grey area, a chaotic neutral or just associated with something unpleasant like death so people didn't like to mention them all that much. But because modern narratives require a definite villain, you get gods such as Loki who were (most of the time) just a pain in the arse for other gods being turned into definitely evil. Some of the stuff Loki did makes this easy and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, it's just part of old stories evolving through the ages. But some of the gods we think of as being the "good" guys did some pretty questionable things as well.