[ SECRET POST #2000 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2000 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 110 secrets from Secret Submission Post #286.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[sparklywalls]

I really don't get this. I'm a mythology nut and I don't see them as having to be exactly the same. It's just inspired by that mythology. It's like I can't get upset about Disney's Hercules or the Stargate universe using mythological beings but not getting it exactly "right" - it's a different canon.

I mean, it's ok you feel that way OP I'm just saying I really don't get it.

[writerserenyty]

Woo for mythology nuts! (Classical mythology is one of my passions)

and I totally agree. I used to be pretty upset about Disney's Hercules (in my defense I was a young kid who really liked mythology), but it's not really intended to be the same. Thor isn't supposed to reflect Norse mythology completely accurately, I think, just be similar.

[sparklywalls]

Hah I was exactly the same. I was about 12 when Hercules was out and went a bit crazy at how "OMG THIS ISN'T PURE!" - now I find it amusing how much Disney obviously had to bend over backwards to avoid awkward questions like "mummy, why is that man married to his sister?"

[writerserenyty]

Haha, that was exactly my reaction. I'm fine with the movie now because it's REALLY hard to water down Greek/Roman mythology to fit the G/PG audience. I remember my high school Latin teacher heard some description of Ganymede being about how since he was a very nice boy he could bring milk to Zeus or something like that.

Still I remember being a kid and being all pissed off for inaccuracy.

[meadowphoenix]

Well, he is a cup bearer, but I don't think milk or even ambrosia is his draw...

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, really? In all mythology books I've read they only mentioned him as cupbearer who brought Zeus ambrosia... is there anything else to that myth? I've done small research online, but once again, it says only about the ambrosia thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, totally GAY PEDO MAN-BOY LOVE. Not really surprising modern mythology books cover that up...

[meadowphoenix]

Zues is a pedo and he stole Ganymede to have the sex with him. There were quite a few pedos, including Aphrodite and Apollo. Ganymede was only made a cup bearer so that Hera wouldn't get too mad about all the infidelity. She still got mad, mind you, but instead of taking it out on Official Cup Bearer Ganymede, she just took it out on his family during the Trojan War.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. The Greek myths are reaaaaaaaally skivvy.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Last time I checked, the Asgardians of Marvel were aliens. Not the same gray aliens as Stargate, but they are an alien race.

OP, if you have to rationalize it, think of it this way: Lightning was the gods fighting before we understood what it was, right? For years and years and years we came up with fantastical explanations for things that we now know the science behind. But, just imagine that, if centuries ago someone who could harness the power of lighting and throw mountains showed up, even once or twice. They were just fighting their war, but to the mind of someone who couldn't do that they had to be something more. Something amazing. GODS even. Of course, they only saw them once or twice, and from the middle of a war. Details get forgotten. Things are hazy. Maybe, two generations down the road, that man who was throwing lightning around, his hair "looking like it was on fire and shining brightly" became a redhead in the myths created about the fantastical beings with which humans had only limited context with. People who were fighting next to one another (or possibly WITH one another) became brothers, because that makes for a good story, or because one generation forgets the "in arms" part of brother-in-arms. Slowly the edda become the mythology of humans, while the aliens just go on their way being themselves, until we reach modern day and suddenly the fantastic beings are back.

TL;DR: Stories evolve, especially stories that have been translated into different dialects and languages, and before that were only passed down through spoken tradition. Use that as the reason Marvel Asgardians =/= the eddas.

[sparklywalls]

Good tl;dr!

Another anon has said something below that combined with this comment has reminded me that a lot of the "designated villains" in older mythologies didn't even start out that way as well. They were a grey area, a chaotic neutral or just associated with something unpleasant like death so people didn't like to mention them all that much. But because modern narratives require a definite villain, you get gods such as Loki who were (most of the time) just a pain in the arse for other gods being turned into definitely evil. Some of the stuff Loki did makes this easy and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, it's just part of old stories evolving through the ages. But some of the gods we think of as being the "good" guys did some pretty questionable things as well.

[gabzillaz]

Same here