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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-24 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2000 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2000 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I apologize for all the idiots who think Loki in any shape or form is sympathetic. Clearly reading is a massive problem for them to comprehend how wicked Loki's character is supposed to be in myth. He is not ever supposed to be felt sorry for. He's the trickster, he is the one who taunts and insults people so much that he gets thrown out. He is the one who causes trouble to the point of killing poor Baldr. He is NOT a nice guy. Ever. Poor Sigyn never gets any of the sympathy, it's always him.

That aside, stop being pretentious about myth. The myth and the comics have really too little to do with one another.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Baldr?

Look at it this way: Baldr had a bad dream and went crying to mum and dad, who decided that they would make him unkillable so that the bad dream doesn't come true. Basically they were going against the natural order of things for their one precious son. Loki, as the trickster figure (who is neither good nor evil, mind you, but a TRICKSTER), had Baldr killed to keep the natural order intact--nobody should be invincible.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

And that's Baldr's fault? Really? I don't like that it was done to him but I don't think Baldr should be damned for it.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-26 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
No, definitely not Baldr's fault. Just that that situation wasn't as simple as Baldr=Good and Loki=Bad.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
How you see Baldr and Loki depends upon how you read the mythology. If you see it as symbolic, educational as myths were, then a force of chaos was balancing order. If you see it as a human drama, then Loki is (probably) a fucking dickhead.

Then there's always the "Christian propaganda made Loki do it" version XD

(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
uuuuh, you realize, without Loki, Thor would have never gotten Mjolnir, Odin would never have Sleipnir, and quite a few other things would never have happened that were good, right? Baldr was the biggest thing he did wrong, and the myths make it clear that the other people in Asgard basically treated Loki like crap by responding to even the smallest pranks with a heavy hand. He was a trickster, yes, but tricksters aren't always bad (for example: Coyote in a few Native American cultures tends to largely be helpful).

Sigyn obviously saw him worth sympathy. She sat there, trying to keep poison from his eyes. She didn't have to, but she did. She seems to be the only one with her head not completely up her ass in Asgard, really, and I mean overall.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-25 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
You should feel good about this comment :)