[ SECRET POST #2004 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2004 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


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02.
[madou monogatari, puyo puyo]


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03.
[Ultimate Spider-Man]


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04.
[Ray Park]


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05.
[Hotel Transylvania]


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06.
[The Sopranos]


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07.
[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]


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08.
[NCIS, X-Files, Avengers]


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09.
[Iron Man/Avengers]


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10.
[Ace Attorney]


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11.
[Dune]


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12.
[The Angry Beavers/Owen Wilson & Ben Stiller]


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13.
[Game of Thrones/ A Song of Ice and Fire]


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14.
[Community]


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15.
[TMZ TV Show]


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16.
[Exit to Eden]


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17.
[Avengers]


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18.
[BBC Sherlock, Lolita]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #286.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - text comment ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Also what the hell is id-fic and how is this that?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even know. It's a term that keeps popping up, but I've never heard anyone define it. :/

[hihartnfics]

I've never seen the term prior to this secret, but if I had to take a stab at it...since the id is the part of the psyche that involves base needs (food, sex, etc) and is preoccupied with avoiding pain and seeking pleasure, I'd guess id-fic are like PWPs? Fics that are meant just to give people squee or get them off without making them think or feel any kind of painful emotions?

IDK, that's the only way this even kind of makes sense. :/

[elaminator]

Oh, this makes...some sense, yea. Don't know if you're right, but thanks for the reasonable explanation anyway. :)

[thene]

A bit like PWPs but more often for the emotions than for the sex drive? Like, really shameless and gratuitous h/c, unironic tropey romance, whump or rape, stuff that's just written to let the writer & readers feel feelings with no higher artistic purpose (except maybe by accident). I love idfics.

eta: weird that you were describing something fairly unambiguously positive but what makes me think 'idfic' is more of the gratuitously dark variety. Acknowledging that people take pleasure in that stuff - especially in h/c - is what I really define as 'idfic', for some reason.

[hihartnfics]

Yeah, strange...maybe I was being positive without realizing it? I'm not one who gets too hung up in the "negative" of the id - it may not do much for one's cultural or spiritual development, but in the most basic sense, it doesn't hurt anything. Chimpanzees spend most of their time living the id...they've been known to throw shit at each other (and others) literally, and even on occasion gang-beat a potential threat to death and carry its head away as a trophy. They still manage to survive and thrive within their communities just fine. The id just spews out what it means to be alive and feeling, so I don't have any particular qualms of negative/positive with that. It's the ego and superego that become more concerned with what it means to be human, and civilized, so I wouldn't expect any kind of morality/justice/whatever in an "idfic."

[elaminator]

I wanna know what it means too. Maybe some friendly anon will help us out.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

Oh, I've heard the term before -- I remember being confused about it and googling around to see if anyone explained it -- you can find some fic authors' LJ and DW journal entries on the subject. Basically, it's stories that comes straight from the id, appealing to knee-jerk viewer/reader reactions rather than common sense and faithfulness to characterization and what makes a good story. Like, an id-fic will have a character the author doesn't like get totally bawled out and insulted and humiliated by other characters in a really OOC way in revenge for some dickish action of his/hers -- the author just wants to see the mean character get a comeuppance, they don't care that the scenario makes no fucking sense. Sometimes the author doesn't realize that what they want to see =/= good, IC story, and the fics get more complex and layered than that, which is when stuff like woobie!Loki and blushing!infantile!Steve and demonization of interfering love interests for the author's OTP start going haywire.

(This also happens in published fiction -- google "OH JOHN RINGO NO" for a really frickin' hilarious dissection of a particularly gratuitous example of it).

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, friend! I learned something today.

OH JOHN RINGO NO

[fingalsanteater]

Oh my, that journal entry (here: http://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html - warning: casual references to rape in bad fiction) was hysterical. Thanks for that.

Re: OH JOHN RINGO NO

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

Hee you're welcome! I read the whole entry alternating between gaping in horror and clamping my hand over my mouth to stifle my giggles. :D

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the id is the secret dark animal part of the mind - emotions, kink, sex, death, base desires, fundamental identities, instincts, all the things we'd rather not admit to.

Id-fic is fic that came right out of the author's id, and appeals directly to the reader's id, any other measures of quality optional.

I think it started with the id vortex concept ( http://fanlore.org/wiki/Id_vortex ) in 2004 but the term may have been around before that.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, Fanlore is a good bet to find out what fannish terms mean. These articles might be of use to you:

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Idfic
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Id_Vortex

Generally in fannish terms it's used both for 'so fluffy I could die' kind of indulgence, and 'heheehhehe bring out the scalpel, Igor!' kind of indulgence. As long as they're things your rational mind tells you that it's kind of weird and OOC and not all that societally acceptable, but it just makes you feel all tingly inside.