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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-01 03:19 pm

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-07-02 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
rme at "anti-choice".

I don't call pro-choice people "anti-life". That would be absolutely ridiculous, and it doesn't make sense either. Do you realize how much of a douche you look like when you go out of your way to slap a falsifying label on someone you don't agree with?

Thanks for proving my point. Both of them, really.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't have even mentioned it dawg. While I hate the idea of abortions as well I've gotten into the same argument a few times. People have their heads to far up their asses to think there's more than just black and white.

You're automatically anti-choice, male, Republican and Christian because us guys on the internet don't judge. No sir.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, the only person implying they're male, Republican or Christian because they're anti-choice is you.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
At the moment, maybe. I assure you this isn't the only place this has ever come up.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-07-03 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think people assume you're male if you say you're pro-life. They might assume you're a republican, though. (I am neither...)
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-02 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I totally agree. I'm pro-choice, but I think calling people "anti-choice" is a cheap dig (just like calling people "anti-life" is.) I've never understood what's so horrible about calling people what they want to be called. It's easy enough to say "These people go by an innocuous name, but I think they're very wrong in a very destructive way" and avoid silly name-calling.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that if you're pro-choice you're not 'anti-life.' All that being pro-choice means is that you respect women's bodily autonomy and right to choose whether or not they want to be an incubator for an unborn baby.

If you're 'pro-life' that means you are against women's ability to choose what happens in their body, ie you are anti-choice.

It's really simple. Stop trying to make false equivalencies.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-07-03 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
So am I anti-choice if I believe you shouldn't be allowed to pick up a gun and shoot someone who didn't provoke you, or drive a car on a sidewalk on a school campus, or bring explosive material onto an airplane? And it's not just human lives that curb choice - it's also not okay to have sex with someone who has been drugged, or set fire to someone else's house, or lock a person up in your closet for a week.

People who are pro-life aren't out to destroy the choices of people. We just recognize that one person's rights end where the other person's rights begin. Society is CHALK FULL of instances where peoples' choices are limited in order to protect the rights of others. No one is purposely trying to figure out how we can eliminate the choices of women even more (trollish glee)!!! We like people to have as many choices in their lives as possible - we just recognize that those choices have limitations in order to protect others' rights to be alive, be free, and ultimately make their own choices one day too.

In the same way, I know that most pro-choice people aren't out to see how many babiez they can kill, and most don't have a flippant attitude about the value of human life. We just disagree on things like whether an unborn person is a living human, whether their right to life is especially important, etc. I know most people in existence would like to eliminate *situations* where women find themselves facing that choice.

So I don't think you are anti-life. And I am not anti-choice. Most of all, your unwillingness to respect the label I choose for my beliefs shows me that you are not able to have a reasonable discussion about it, that you would have a very hard time being objective, and that you're more interested in being rude to people you disagree with than actually accomplishing anything.