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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-02 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2008 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2008 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
But did it absolutely need to be addressed? Were people protesting in the streets because there was a lack of mother-daughter films? And why was it answered with a really weak film that had a weak resolution to it? Mother and daughter play in the river together and then everything is okay between them?

I once again call on Finding Nemo for comparison. The dad fish crossed an entire ocean to save his son and realized he was smothering his son despite thinking he was protecting him. Nemo saw his father risk everything to save him and realized that his father wasn't trying to ruin his life but protect him in the only way he knew how. Their relationship was built up and resolved perfectly.

Merida and her mother did not get that kind of build up. If they had, maybe I would have actually enjoyed the film.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2012-07-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't defending how the movie dealt with it, (I do have several problems with the film and I don't consider it particularly groundbreaking) just that it's not a common theme in animated movies, where the mothers are either dead, evil or wallpaper.

Playing devil's advocate, that's all :)

(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough :)

(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I thought there was enough about Merida and Elinor's prior relationship in the film, even if it was shown in a less linear fashion than in Finding Nemo. It was lovely how both women realize there is value in the other's way of life. Elinor realizes Merida's skills are useful and her opinion on the big question not irrelevant, Merida realizes that a queenly presence and a diplomatic hand are valuable skills in another kind of wilderness. It was really touching to me that Elinor immediately regretted that spoilery thing she did in response to Merida's spoilery thing when they were screaming at each other. It showed that even if she didn't entirely understand her daughter's interests, she respected that it was something very dear to Merida all the same. Their journey was the same as Nemo and Marlin's, to understand each other, and for Merida in particular to put aside her pride and accept that her mother acted out of love the best way she knew how. Journeys don't have to be geographical to be epic.
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[personal profile] gethenian 2012-07-03 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Journeys don't have to be geographical to be epic.

If you're not familiar with Joseph Campbell already, you need to be. :)