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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-02 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2008 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2008 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
men have no control over the birth of a child they do not want; where women are not required to inform men of the births of their children

Men have the power to avoid these situations by either not having sex with women or being very choosy about which women they have sex with (i.e. finding a woman who is on the same page re: children). Just because a man's choices occur earlier in the process does not mean that he doesn't have them and isn't actually responsible for the outcomes of these choices.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
not this bullshit

(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
This does not counter my point in any way: women have a different and greater amount of power with regards to their children than men do. Because women are given this greater power, they are held to a higher standard when they abandon children. Since they have a greater say in the process, they are looked down on more for giving up children.

You've pretty much corroborated with me. A man has to go to greater lengths to ensure a similar amount of control over his children that the typical woman has than a woman does. A woman has many options that can be undertaken independently; a man almost never does and is then forced to take responsibility for or is denied control over his children. When the power imbalance is so ridiculously unfair, there are consequences to the party with the greater amount of power. I don't really agree with the OP that women are unfairly maligned since men are pretty darn looked down upon for abandoning children, but it's impossible to say that the power imbalance doesn't exist.
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[personal profile] fadeinthewash 2012-07-03 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Men have the power to avoid these situations by either not having sex with women or being very choosy about which women they have sex with

Oomph. Women have those choices, too, and I can't imagine anyone here sincerely going the slut-shaming route that's usually attached to that sort of statement and declare they ought to suck it up and keep any babies that result.