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fandomsecrets2012-07-02 06:36 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-07-02 06:36 pm
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I also disagree that men have less say in their children's existence. They just have a very different set of options presented. Their say is just more short-lived which is tempered by the fact that they are not physically affected by the outcome of their choice.
I don't think both women and men having an equal say in a decision about abortion is fair because they are affected very differently. Men have a say up until the point of conception. After that any decision made by him will alter her body and therefore he can't make that kind of decision.
As to the point of this thread I wasn't specifically responding to that but to an aspect of an argument you made. I also made a reference to the fact that women should not be shamed for abandoning a child more than a man just because they could have chosen abortion. Abortion is not emotionally the same as surrendering a child for adoption.
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(Anonymous) 2012-07-03 06:53 am (UTC)(link)The advantage is having a legally protected say in the life and welfare of their children. What is the disadvantage there? Pregnancy? I'm really not seeing what your issue is.
I am not interested in arguing whether any of this is fair. I am simply stating that there is an imbalance in power that contributes to a greater disapproval of mothers abandoning children than fathers. In that regard, it is very much a separate but equal situation, which is to say it's not equal at all. If a couple divorces, there is a bias towards the woman in awarding custody. If a woman wants an abortion, she is able to do so without the father's permission. If a woman wants to put a child up for adoption, she is able to do so without the father's permission. If a woman has a child, it is only in the most extenuating of circumstances that the child is not assumed to be biologically hers. If a parent abuses a child, it is not automatically assumed to be the mother. It is the fact that these situations are overwhelmingly in favor of the mother that indicates an imbalance.
This only applies to certain societies, which proves that it's not an inherent way of thinking but rather a product of societal bias, ideals, and mores. The fact is that men in certain Western societies are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to their children.
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