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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-02 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2008 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2008 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-07-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that after viability, no one has a choice, neither mother nor father and viability is pretty biological. That women have the right alone before viability is biological too, since the health of the any fetus will be dependent on the health of the mother. I will grant you that not knowing a man has a child is a problem for asserting his rights. But that is the only one. Whether they are automatic rights or not is a matter of biology, since as you mentioned, the only certain parent is the mother, being that a baby can only come out through the mother.

It's perfectly fair. There isn't equal consideration for disparate impact. Men's health is never in jeopardy because of a pregnancy. Women's health is, and you can't declare that one health decision completely waives another. There's also a cultural rule that women are primarily responsible for birth control, anyway.

But again DNA tests are needed because of a biological reality.

You're going to have to give me receipts that abandoning children wasn't just as reviled for women when men had control over the life and death of their child, as much as you can with it being in another person, they were automatically assumed to have complete control over their family life, and they were considered the one with final parental control, and that men were just as reviled for abandonment as women are now. Because you are not only assuming causation, but you are assuming a certain order of causation for apparently no reason, considering that history says otherwise. This contempt for abandoning mothers has more to do with diminishing the role of women solely to mothers, so that any rejection of that role made them socially useless.