[ SECRET POST #2008 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2008 ⌋

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Comments

[meadowphoenix]

Yeah, this just seems circular. You may say you're more likely to get jumped "here", but you did so in a way that suggested that people being defensive of women's health choices were being unreasonable. My point is they're not being unreasonable since it's pretty likely women get "be responsible" a lot from society anyway. Nobody talks here as if the internet is a close circuit with no regard as the prevailing view of things in society. No one. Although I should have made it far more clear.

Robert was Joffrey's stated father, and no one blames that douche. People do blame Cersei.

You said I proved your point, which was about being jumped on, with my response, which you found condescending. So yes, you did imply you were jumped on by my response.

[diet_poison]

" but you did so in a way that suggested that people being defensive of women's health choices were being unreasonable."

How is saying "it's wrong to imply that women have *some* responsibility for their actions, including sex" in any way the same thing as getting defensive of women's health choices? I really think you are blowing up my original point into something that was never there.

Good point about Robert. I hadn't thought of that. And yeah, he was a very negligent "father", so he should be blamed for that, ia. (I mean even though it's twisted that he was sort of bullshitted out of having any actual, "trueborn" kids? But he didn't know that during his lifetime, so it's not an excuse for his behavior, and even then...)

[meadowphoenix]

I'm equating the people who would be jumpy with the people who are defensive. I just don't think the jumpy/defensive people are unreasonable. Saying women have some responsibility simply isn't new information.

I'm not saying there aren't circumstances in which mentioning that everyone has responsibility isn't warranted. I just don't think it's warranted in general.