case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-06 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2012 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2012 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.
[Infinity Blade II, Chaos Ring]


__________________________________________________



05.
[Kushiel's Legacy, Avengers, Harry Potter, Star Trek]


__________________________________________________



06.
[America's next top Model]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Common Law]


__________________________________________________



08.
[MST3K ("Space Mutiny") and Final Fantasy VI]


__________________________________________________



09.
[the bachelorette]


__________________________________________________



10.
[Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon]


__________________________________________________













[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]













11. [SPOILERS for Deus Ex: Human Revolution]



__________________________________________________



12. [SPOILERS for Legend of Korra]



__________________________________________________



13. [SPOILERS for Legend of Korra]



__________________________________________________



14. [SPOILERS for Pandora Hearts]



__________________________________________________



15. [SPOILERS for Merlin]



__________________________________________________














[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]














16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Park Yong Ha]


__________________________________________________



17. [WARNING for abuse]



__________________________________________________



18. [WARNING for abuse]



__________________________________________________



19. [WARNING for rape]



__________________________________________________



20. [WARNING for incest]



__________________________________________________



21. [WARNING for incest possibly (OP's request)]



__________________________________________________













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #287.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
countess_k: (Default)

[personal profile] countess_k 2012-07-07 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
This is actually interesting. I remember when I first watched that scene I thought Triton was a great father because even when he was so angry he didn't raise a finger to her. My own father, one time he was very angry at me, slapped me over and over and it was a horrible experience trying to get away from him and protect myself. So I guess in my mind, any punishment that didn't involve bodily pain was better. I now realize that depending on the person's experience that isn't necessarily true and Triton was in fact an abusive parent.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if we can say for sure that he is an abusive parent, after all, Triton does freak out and feel guilty about what he had done, and in the end, he's willing to take Ariel's place in the contract, and once that's been resolved, he's willing to give her legs so she can find her own happiness on land, without him.

But, there is enough evidence that you could read him as abusive if you so chose. I think it's kind of like the Mother Gothel/Rapunzel relationship: one is a relationship a lot of people find creepy and abusive, with some touching moments, one is a touching relationship with some creepy/abusive moments.

The difference is that Triton actually feels regret for his actions, has a plausible reasoning for them (fear), and in the end, makes the right choice to secure Ariel's happiness by letting her go.

I don't think you can just say "oh, well, he's abusive" and leave it at that, it's more complex then that.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think it's fair to call him abusive just based off that incident. I remember when I was younger that my dad yelled at me for something (I can't remember what, but I was kind of a brat), broke my favorite VHS tape in front of my face (Cinderella) and for some reason ripped one of my sweaters in half and it really frightened me to see him act like that. Do I consider him abusive for that one incident? Of course not. He's a great guy and I wouldn't trade him for the world, and he later sincerely apologized. But if he had acted similarly on multiple occasions instead of just that one time, then yeah I would call that abusive behavior.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Regretting your actions doesn't make you not abusive.

http://pervocracy.blogspot.mx/2011/07/why-does-she-stay-with-that-jerk.html?m=1

16. "She's really nice... mostly."
Her wife is super sweet and loving. She's a flowers-and-chocolates romantic, a believer in true love and love at first sight, and she treats her just like a princess. Except now and then, things get tense in the relationship, and bad things happen. Really bad things. Her wife just doesn't seem like herself and she explodes. But the apology is even sweeter and lovinger than before and things are good again. Maybe it was a one-off. Or a two-off. A three-off? Maybe this really is the last time and from now on she'll just have the nice wife she fell in love with. She's certainly being nice now, and how could you leave someone like that?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
True, but his regret isn't just a "oh, I regret it right now, let me abuse you some more later" type thing, he regrets it, and does his best to make it better, even giving her up when he needed to, if that makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Different situation. Something that really is never repeated makes an abusive incident, not an abusive relationship. My dad pushed me to the ground once in my entire life and never, ever did it again (or anything else violent or threatening). That was an abusive incident, but not an abusive relationship. You're describing a series of incidents which is, yes, an abusive relationship.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
That we know of. We have no clue what's happened before, or how he treats his other daughters/treated his wife. The thing is, you have the whole history on your dad - we don't on Triton. For all we know, while he may never have been physically abusive, it's possible he was abusive and/or controlling in other ways as well.
world_eater: (Default)

[personal profile] world_eater 2012-07-07 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
And for all we know he could never have been abusive and/or controlling in other ways. As the other anon said, you can read him as abusive or you don't, both scenarios are not set in stone.