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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-09 06:41 pm

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habilelapin: A sketch of Fifi Lapin in the rose dress, black and white (Default)

[personal profile] habilelapin 2012-07-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Me either. Maybe it could be an averagely enjoyable show on its own, but as a Sherlock Holmes adaption, I'm just not seeing it.

Which is a shame, because genderswapped characters could bring a different view to it. (Would Sherlock be treated differently if he was still an arrogant asshole, only a woman?) I don't understand why they only switched one of them, either.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-07-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Would Sherlock be treated differently if he was still an arrogant asshole, only a woman?

Yes. Yes. Yes. And I would pay all the monies to see it outside of my head! Especially if they didn't try "redeeming" her or making her more vulnerable/relatable.
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[personal profile] habilelapin 2012-07-10 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
What you just said made me immediately scowl. Sherlock is not redeemable. Male or female, Sherlock will always be an arrogant crazy bastard who scares people.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-07-10 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Funnily enough I was scowling as I typed it and muttering angrily.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2012-07-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Because if it were two women as the leads, the pilot would never have even been filmed and the project would have been axed at the script stage.

The only show with two female leads that is not specifically marketed to women that I can think of is Rizzoli and Isles. And that's not even on network TV. Women are constantly asked to relate to male characters and to imagine themselves in their place, but men aren't ever really asked to do the same with female characters.

I don't think any network would want to take a risk on a show marketed to general audiences that did not have at least one male lead.
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[personal profile] habilelapin 2012-07-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
So, the reason that should be expected for the rest of my life is...? The only way it changes is if someone changes it. Why not? If the first one fails, try again, and again, until it sticks.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2012-07-10 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just saying that it realistically would never be made. So for now, I'll take one of the Holmes/Watson team being a woman rather than none at all and hopefully in time as more and more women are cast as leads in roles that have been traditionally reserved for men, then we'll get to a point where a network will take a chance on two female leads.
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[personal profile] sarnath 2012-07-10 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Late answer, but I've been reading this exchange, and I'm with you all the way. Only, a Holmes-like character who is female is neither an impossibility or something that hasn't been done yet; The Girl With the Dragon tattoo is exactly this. But only the Swedish version. The American adaptation actually did make her "softer" and "more brittle" in order to make her "more appealing as a female character".

In the first part (of the miniseries) and the first book, she shares the main role with a male character, but she is the primary main character, there's never a question about that.

And these books (and miniseries) were the major phenomenon in Sweden for years. And no one talked about Mikael Blomkvist, it was all Lisbeth Salander!

And of course there are major cultural differences between Sweden and the USA (which may be ahy they weren't as big a hit in the US), but these books and Swedish miniseries are available in English, IIRC.