[ SECRET POST #2016 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2016 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 065 secrets from Secret Submission Post #288.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand what everyone means by screw the artists out of their rights to the comic?? Do they mean the artists don't get paid? Or what?

[truxillogical]

More or less, there is no such thing as "creator owned" when it comes to Tokyo Pop. If they publish your story...they own it.

That may sound like everything else, but it's not. The Big Two, Marvel and DC, if you're working on their titles, yeah, you don't own anything, even if, say, you make up a new character for Spider-man. That character isn't yours, it's Marvel's. Because it's their shared universe. But for creator-owned projects, like, saw what gets put out by Image or Archaia, the creators--the writer and artist (who may or may not be the same person) still owns that story. If, say, it fails under one company, gets cancelled, or the company goes under or what-have-you, that creator can still take their story and try again elsewhere, or try self-publishing.

Tokyo-pop doesn't do that. They own your story.

Their "rising stars" contest was a pretty cheap and tricky version of that, a while back. The best stories submitted would get the prize of getting published and the creator got a flat fee...like, a couple hundred dollars. Something that sounded good to a lot of the bright-eyed teens and early-20's who had no idea what their talent was worth, but it was a really pitiful offering on TP's part, and TP now owned that story (meaning that said creators couldn't decide to do more of their own story unless TP picked it up).

They also really didn't pay their artists enough to live on. I mean, freelancers, especially less well-known ones, work for peanuts, but TP really was banking on a lot of starry-eyed kids who'd be so eager to get into the business that they wouldn't take a good hard look at what they were being offered.

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't Marvel sue a creator of one of the stories they published for selling prints of his characters a little while back?

[truxillogical]

Yup. The co-creator of Ghost Rider. Who sued them first, trying to get the rights back to the character that was created while under a work-for-hire contract with Marvel. Work-for-hire is different than "this is my story." (See above: if you create a character while working for them, they own said character.) There's a lot of gray area legality with what gets sold in a convention's artist alley, and while, yikes, he really got slammed hard and that's awful...suing Marvel was not a particularly wise move, when you dabble in said gray area. At all.

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

Also, their treatment of their translators was not much better. Tokyopop US was just a poorly-run company all around. Instead of focusing on providing quality manga translations and fostering new talent in a good environment, they attempted to create a "manga lifestyle" image with their crappy website and licensing every book they could get their hands on, flooding the market. (http://matt-thorn.com/wordpress/?p=495)