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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-10 06:14 pm

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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2012-07-11 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of internalised misogyny involved in Twilight hate--even the people who hate it for supposedly feminist reasons aren't willing to acknowledge that women and girls might not take Twilight any more seriously as a model for life than men and boys take James Bond books and movies!

When it comes to the Twilight moms, though, there's also a fuckload of internalised ageism. Middle-aged women are just supposed to disappear into the background and support their kids and husbands, especially if they're not career women. They're supposed to dress conservatively and be practical and not be sexy or romantic and if they're flashy at all people make fun of them. Teenage girls are allowed to be silly and obsessed in public, but if you're over 35, how dare you have fun and let go and enjoy something frivolous that much? People on F!S and FW are always making rude comments about middle aged women being "too old" for fandom (who do they think keeps fandom sites and businesses running?) and I can't count the stupid arguments in lolita fashion communities with people saying it's perfectly okay for 15-25 year olds to dress like Victorian children but once you hit 35 you're supposed to dress your age--fuck that noise.

I don't have kids so I am technically not a Twilight mom, but I'm over 40 and I wear lolita and I love Twilight and I have no intention of dropping lolita for Chico's or Twilight for Desperate Housewives. :)

I have no doubt that some of the older ladies in Twilight fandom have done inappropriate things because I have never been in a fandom where people--both young girls and older women--didn't do stupid, creepy or inappropriate things. But honestly, that's just how people work--some of them are inappropriate and creepy, but most of them are just trying to have fun.
Edited 2012-07-11 05:38 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
This! Thank you!

It's not okay to mock teenage girls for liking things.

It's not okay to mock middle-aged women for liking things either. The amount of hate for older women in fandom is sickening.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-12 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't even think of this, but great point.