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Too fucking much. Triggers are now "anything that makes me uncomfortable" instead of "things that trigger my violently crippling flashbacks"

Too fucking much. Triggers are now "anything that makes me ~~uncomfortable~~ mildly annoyed" instead of "things that trigger my violently crippling flashbacks"

ftfm

It sucks because trigger warning do have a valid place in fandom but with so many people distorting the meaning a lot of people are rolling their eyes at the whole idea. Like, stop helping doods!

I remember recently linking an article about war crimes on my journal and wondering what the hell warnings to attach to it, because it really did cover all the bases as regards things that are considered warnable in fandom. All of them. I just said 'this is about war crimes', in the end. It was just weird feeling like I was neither comfortable warning nor not warning. /coolstory

MTE.
I have PTSD. I have triggers, in the flashback-horror-anxiety sense. (They're not anything anyone in fandom typically warns for, but I'm in a really small fandom, and after a polite note about it, near everyone is kind enough - not obligated - to let me know if it's included.) But I can't help but feel like my experiences are so much harder to explain with the proliferation of "triggered" meaning "hurt feelings". I don't even feel comfortable using the word "trigger" to describe them anymore, even in spaces where the meaning of the word is known.

So not only is it annoying to feel required to label every little thing just in case, but I think it can be actively harmful to people like, well, me.

Yeah, you see people warning for things that make NO FUCKING SENSE as triggers. Like, people on tumblr using a trigger warning for a recipe/food picture post containing meat. Tons of people aren't comfortable with eating meat but no one has a serious mental health issue with a picture of it.

Sometimes triggers are personal and idiosyncratic. I have some of the big, obvious, almost-always-warned-for ones, but I have a few which outwardly don't fucking make sense unless you know their context. I don't think there should be an expectation of warning for things like that, but at the same time, I don't think people who choose to accommodate a friend/reader/follower/etc in that way should necessarily be mocked.

If the person requesting the warning is misusing 'trigger' as a term, sure, but in that case they're the ones deserving of scorn, not the people playing better-safe-than-sorry and overwarning.

See now, I don't think those over cautions people are the problem, so much.

It's the butthurts and the sjw and the butthurt sjw that say "HOW DARE YOU NOT HAVE A TAG FOR (insert bullshit thing here)!" and then flame somebody over it.

I think that, moreso, is what this is about.

da. Maybe I just hang out in the wrong parts of fandom, but I've never seen that actually happen. I've only seen people reference it in discussions exactly like this one with someone complaining that trigger warnings have "gone too far." Who does this? Where is it happening?

I might be wrong but Sherlock TV? fanficrants on LJ should have a few examples too, and the anon rant comms.

Fanficrants is pretty pro-warnings, though. The only time I've seen them get up in arms on the topic is when people warn for things like homosexuality.

Warning: the following text contains enough fluff to make the most hardhearted giant bawl... NOT!

Sorry, I don't know I read it then. I do remember rants about over-warning and idiotic warnings (see above), and discussions on changing "warnings" to some variation of "this fic contains" instead.

I'm the same - I have a couple of triggers that are generally warned for, plus some that make no damn sense and which I tend not to even tell people about because I don't want to have to explain them and it's not THAT bad a deal for me - no full-on PTSD, just a bunch of traumatic memories I can't always reasonably deal with.

I don't think accommodating friends is what we're describing, though. Warning for meat is clearly more along the lines of a conventional disgust squick or an agenda-driven squick, not trauma.

I really like the

mgs_pchat system, where members comment in a screened post to say what their major triggers are and that becomes the comm's warning list; that probably doesn't work for a very large comm, though.

Edited 2012-07-17 00:20 (UTC)

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