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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-16 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2022 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2022 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 088 secrets from Secret Submission Post #289.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-07-16 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
THEY ARE EVIL.

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
THEY ARE CHARACTERS.

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Yes, and? You do realize that a well-written villain has motivations beyond just "evil," right? It's really frustrating that so much of fandom insists villains have to be two-dimensional, either as pure evil like you're suggesting or as poor, misunderstood woobies. No, dude. Let villains be complex. You know, like real human people actually are. Yeah, even the "evil" ones.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-07-17 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Be that as it may, most people who can do the sort of things that qualify then as world conquerors have very different definitions of love.

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
'Most' being the key word. I understand what you're trying to get at, but you cannot just put all people in a sock drawer and go "SEE THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE AND HOW THEY BEHAVE AND HOW THEY MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIPS AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT". People are complex; you can expect absolutely anything and everything from them!
stainless: Megatron and Starscream standing in wreckage, reads ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US (Default)

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that a well-written villain has motivations beyond just "evil," right?

Which is why writing them is so damn much fun.

And tough to do. If a villain isn't tough to write, you're probably oversimplifying.

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes, and that's one of the things that's fun to explore in fiction.

And, you know, there are many, many different conceptions of love among non-evil people, too. Like, I'm definitely not the world-conquering type, but the shit in romance novels and romcoms doesn't fall under my conception of "love" at all.
stainless: Megatron and Starscream standing in wreckage, reads ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US (Default)

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and that's one of the things that's fun to explore in fiction.

Anon, you are awesome. This so damn much.

I love villains precisely because it's so fascinating to explore what concepts we take for granted that we understand (like honor, loyalty, love) are like for them.
majorshipper: (Default)

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

[personal profile] majorshipper 2012-07-17 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
IA with you both completely

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
DA

YESSSSS.

Re: Unnecessary Overthinking

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
YES THIS