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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-19 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2025 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2025 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Avengers/Thor]

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[Two Men in a Trench]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #289.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] kaileighblue 2012-07-20 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's not 'most female characters'. It's not even that big of a portion of them. It is a huge leap. It's the leap she knew everyone would make when she chose to present it as she did because tumblr is full of leaps and judgements and crazy ass conclusions.

I'm a female fan and and artist. I'm tired of people calling me a man or a self-hating woman because I draw things that maybe a guy faps to. I'm tired of the idea that anything drawn that men enjoy is bad. Also that everything that people consider bad is the only thing that exists. It's all anyone ever talks about. CatwomancatwomanStarfirebloobloobloo. There's hundreds of books a month and all people can do is complain about boobs in 2? People spent weeks shitting their pants over the Catwoman cover by March when we had several gorgeous covers of female fronted books that rarely got a mention.

It seems like people would rather be angry about the 'bad stuff' than support the 'good stuff.' And parrot any opinion they hear on the subject of Sexism. Supporting the good is just as important, if not more so, than crying about the bad.

[identity profile] kamikazemusume.livejournal.com 2012-07-20 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
All my love to this comment (also icon, because OMGYES, Randel)!

*ahem*

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you're fully entitled to your opinion and I do think that having experience in a determined area is always helpful when you're trying to make a point, but it enrages me how dismissive you were of that person's opinion because, apparently, he's a "nobody."

The notion of someone being somehow irrelevant is quite relative. And, in this case, I suspect you spouted that because you disagree with that person? Very well:

I have absolutely NEVER heard of you, your work or know anything about you as a person, so does that entitle me to invalidate everything you typed up there, no matter how eloquently?

I understand what you're trying to say about supporting the "good stuff," but, honestly, if someone is rendered uncomfortable by the "bad stuff" you can't expect them to shut up and deal with it. People who denounce things they disagree with often end up more in evidence because properly disliking/disagreeing with something requires FAR more effort and incites MUCH more discussion than simply loving something.

There will always be uninformed people repeating criticism they've heard, but this should be NO MEANS invalidate the issue at hand. No opinion should be disregarded because it's been said a million times or because the person is not "relevant."
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Re: *ahem*

[personal profile] kaileighblue 2012-07-20 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Woahwoah.. I think you read something I didn't write. I wasn't pulling rank. I'm a nobody. I'm speaking from the perspective of a female artist who wants to make comics. Just like the one that drew that Batgirl. Not a famous one. An artist that has been accused of not being a woman because I drew something that men might enjoy. Oops. Well I like drawing it as well.

I like the aesthetics of comic books. That's what it is. It's a style like manga has a style. Like Disney has a style. It's not realism. Even then for every Jim Lee you have a Humberto Ramos. For every Rocaforte there's a Scotty Young, Takeshi Miyazawa or Michael Ryan, Rafael Albuquerque.

I'm just fucking tired of this circle jerking mentality of people picking one thing they know will cause shit and making a post. People take their word for it, agreeing like they know what they are talking about, and they pat each other on the back for being against Sexism. All comics are obviously sexist because of a few examples is a bullshit lie to spread. It's just as hurtful as saying all feminists want to kill men because some do or all Muslims are terrorists because some have done bad things.

If sexy women is an issue, it exists. It's not as big as people make it out to be. There are far more books with fully dressed fully realized women kicking ass they there are blatantly sexy ones. My personal solution would be more sexy men (Although to me comics are pretty hot already, but I know not everyone likes buff as much as I do.) Sexuality isn't bad. If I want hot men to look at guys can have their hot ladies(or whatever tickles their fancy.)
Edited 2012-07-20 17:52 (UTC)

Re: *ahem*

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not as big as people make it out to be.

You are part of the problem. Thanks so much for doing your part to make sure that women aren't taken seriously in comics, whether on the page or behind the pen.

Re: *ahem*

(Anonymous) 2012-07-22 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an awesome comment and you should feel awesome.