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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-23 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #2029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2029 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-23 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If I could, I'd kiss you for this.
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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-07-23 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that for a lot of characters. Everyone gets defensive over their own interpretation of the character and acts like everyone else is just "not getting it." It sucks when no one in fandom sees a character the same way I do, but wow it's so petty seeing people act pretentious towards others over that.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-23 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
SNAPE. SNAPE. SEVERUS SNAPE.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
RON. RON. RON WEASLEY!

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[personal profile] demishock 2012-07-24 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
DUMBLEDORE!
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[personal profile] biohazardgirl 2012-07-24 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
RON RON RON WEASLEY
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[personal profile] kelincihutan 2012-07-24 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I agree and I don't. It's true that Snape has a lot of angles to him, so there are a few different ways to read him. On the other hand, characterization--even Snape's--is not infinitely elastic, and some people just get it wrong. So...yeah. It depends.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
his characterization in the books may be difficult to pin down, but a lot of people do write him OCC. Oh, do they ever (protip: If the Snape in your fic can possibly be described as "saintly" then you are doing it wrong. Heroic qualities or not, the man's still an asshole. Some of us like that about him)

(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they're getting it wrong. I think they just see something different in the character than I do, or what the majority of readers do. We all have differences in our personal Snapes, and every other character, too. It's just that some of those differences are minute and some of them are Grand Canyon-esque. I've come to consider it a weird kind of a privilege, because the author, whether they realize it or not, is offering me this glimpse into their own headcanon. I might not be able to see it along with them, but it takes some courage to share that with others, and they are as entitled to their Snape as I am to mine.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2012-07-24 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that only goes so far. There is a line. And when people start excusing how Snape treats Neville, Hermione, and Harry and justifying everything he ever does, that is beyond just a different interpretation. That is justifying abuse. And that can be personal to people who have been abused by teachers like Snape.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
...so, is it impossible for a character to be OOC to you?
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[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2012-07-24 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Whenever someone complains that no one writes "in-character Snape," I feel like my Snape isn't good enough. Until I realize that Snape was a contradictory character throughout the books, and that the people who bitch about all the other Snapes must be a bit insecure themselves to feel like they have to insist on One True Snape for everyone, instead of just reading and writing the one they like.

/A few words tripped me up here and there, so I transcribed this in case other people ar having trouble too.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I had to strain my eyes to read the secret. :c

(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, in that care, no one would bother trying to get him in-character? Write the woobie you love but just be prepared to hear others gripe ...
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[personal profile] asecretchord 2012-07-24 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
This, to me, implies there's no middle ground between the unmitigated bastard of Harry's adolescence and woobie!Snape serenading [character of your choice here] from the top of the Astronomy Tower. I like the middle ground. I play in the middle ground. I write (and read) in the middle ground. And I believe Dumbledore when he said, "There is a room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times. It contains a force that is at once more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than the forces of nature. It is also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects for study that reside there. It is the power held within that room that you possess in such quantities and which Voldemort has not at all."

Yes, Snape's a powerful wizard, but he's not strong enough to withstand that. YMMV, my two cents and all the other reasonable and customary disclaimers apply.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2012-07-24 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
The fics people tend to complain about are not the middle ground fics. They are the ones that make Snape into a woobie, that excuse his abuse of Harry/Neville/Hermione/other Gryffindors, and turn him into a completely nice person who either was just faking the earlier personality or was totally justified and the most amazing teacher ever.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe you write him just slightly off; like, you get the basics but there is something off, be it mannerisms, vocabulary, gestures, or just "something", so it registers as "off" to the reader.

Snape is a difficult character to write.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2012-07-24 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
So I'm outlining this story where Snape is a priest who cares for abandoned orphan pandas and dies protecting them from poachers with his body while simultaneously developing potions to cure kitten cancer, erectile dysfunction in humans, and war-mongering. Am I doing it wrong?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
I want to type a facetious response but I can't stop laughing on the inside long enough to concentrate on something.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I...want to read that story.

I mean it would have to be written by somebody who *understands* Snape, who can write a *canon* Snape, but. Have you seen many profiles of the kind of people who tend to go off to run wild animal sanctuaries by themselves? They tend to have *very strange* backstories and difficult personalities. It could work! I hearby matchmake this with the other ongoing thread about writing characters into more interesting professions!

...or dude you could do an AU where Hogwarts was a panda sanctuary! And Harry was a panda! :D

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-24 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
I...do not find Snape to be a terribly contradictory character.
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2012-07-24 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Random, but I've realized that I'd be a lot more interested in Snape if he was a woman. He could still be into Lily, but if he was identical in behavior but female, I would probably actually write him once in a while. Am I nuts, or does anyone else think this?

(oh god Harry Potter fandom kinda hates genderswap doesn't it, what box have I openeddd)
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-07-24 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see why. Nothing about his behavior would have changed, because there's nothing all that stereotypically male about him as an adult (Nasty bullying teacher? Secretly good dragon of Big Bad? Redeemed by love? All stuff that has been done with female characters and wouldn't be given any kind of different spin or perspective if he was female) while his childhood would make no sense — the Marauders wouldn't treat a girl the way they treated Snape. Not due to chivalry or anything, just because that style of mockery and rivalry almost certain wouldn't exist between a girl and a group of boys.

Although maybe being a girl in love with Lily could put a slightly different spin on Snape's relationship with her — the reasons for why she kept her feelings a secret, the reasoning Snape came up with to explain why Lily rejected her (i.e., if Lily was straight, Snape might not have resented James as much because she would see it as more about Lily being into guys than Lily thinking James was better than Snape...or she might have resented him even more for having the luck of having a dick and therefore being a viable choice for Lily).

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