[ SECRET POST #203 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #203 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #029.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 ] broken links, 0 not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, July 28th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

Oh, and

4 I don't see what's wrong with writing an essay about a ship? There's at least one community for that sort of thing, and they're interesting essays to read. It doesn't seem any weirder to me than writing an essay about a character, or about a portion of a story. And really, if something is a well-presented work of fiction, why not honor it by analyzing it?


(Though, I do find the people who say fandom has saved their lives to be somewhat strange. I always wonder if they mean literally? Were they going to commit suicide, or did it save them from an addiction, or a poor choice? It makes me so curious.)

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ITS WHAT THEY MAKE YOU DO IN LIT CLASS OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT DO IT FOR FUN ARE INSAAAAANE

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

Oh shi-. I forgot fandom wasn't full of giant nerds.

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PS ANIME/MANGA/TV SHOWS/WHATEVER <<<<<<<<<< long-winded often-pointless and unintelligible crap by old dead British guys DUH

[failaga.livejournal.com]

WAIT WHY PICK ON THE BRITISH

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BECAUSE SCHOOL MADE ME STUDY THEMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm

[failaga.livejournal.com]

School makes people study American playwrights and authors too LEAVE US ALONE WE ARE A SMALL COUNTRY

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I hate Mark Twain with the passion of a thousand burning suns

[failaga.livejournal.com]

I dislike Arthur Miller. YOUR POINT, SIR?

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Hate the Crucible, love Death of a Salesman.

No point.

[degrees.livejournal.com]

OF MICE AND MEN NEEDS TO BURN IN A FIREEEEEEEEEE

Just thought I'd throw that out there :D

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YES

SO DOES MOBY DICK and uhhhh anything by uhhhhhh whoever wrote Crime and Punishment Auuuuuuuuuuugh

[yummycoffee.livejournal.com]

I NEARLY SPIT OUT MY COKE CAUSE I READ THESE PAST TWO COMMENTS AS:

"OF MICE AND MEN NEEDS TO BURN IN A FIREEEEEEEEE"

"YES SO DOES MY DICK"

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

(Though, I do find the people who say fandom has saved their lives to be somewhat strange. I always wonder if they mean literally? Were they going to commit suicide, or did it save them from an addiction, or a poor choice? It makes me so curious.)
It kind of depends.

But if you find supportive friends on the Internet, which is possible, it can help dull the pain if you've got a sucky life. I will forever be baffled by people who think fandom can't be a place for things that are meaningful.

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

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But if you find supportive friends on the Internet, which is possible, it can help dull the pain if you've got a sucky life. I will forever be baffled by people who think fandom can't be a place for things that are meaningful.

Word. I found friends in fandom, including my best friend, and it was research for writing and my realizing the idea I really found yaoi hot that made me walk away from dominionist Christianity, which led me to actually look into myself and discover things I'd papered over or tried to pretend weren't there.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

I didn't find out I was bisexual through the internet, but my friends from fandom really helped me come to terms with it.

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I didn't find anything about myself through the internet, but having friends and social contacts who weren't all about making sure I felt as bad/wrong/evil/sick/hellbound/etcetera as possible for being who I was and liking what I liked has changed my life so much for the better. If I hadn't had that exposure to the outside, the chance to find some meaning for myself aside from "disgusting ill creature who can't even make God happy much less those around you" I would have likely lived with my family forever as their "bad little secret" and likely eventually committed suicide at some point.

It's not "omg anime saved my life." It's that I found a way to make friends and find people who would accept me, even if I'm not perfect and "normal."

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Yeah that happens a lot with the people I know.

BUT FANDOM SHOULD HAVE NO MEANING. I'm not saying it has to, but stop kocking it when it happens.

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

*nods* And IMO fandom is a subculture and a hobby. It's IMO no different from other creative ventures aside from the fact that we're playing in someone else's sandbox. That doesn't make the subculture, the society, the hobby any less real. It's like someone announcing that America doesn't exist since it's a manufactured culture. All cultures are irrational in some ways, what makes one better than another?

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Stop with that pesky logic. XD

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

XD seriously, I want to smack cultural or subcultural superiority people over the head with a sociology tome. All culture is emotional and irrational, and the difference between them all comes down to just a few things: accident of birth (where you were born and who your parents were), regionality, and, a factor much more important for teenagers and adults now, personal taste.

Yes, morals and ethics can be brought into this (e.g. there's a very strong case for why it's ethically wrong to immerse oneself in Nazi culture) but the majority of cultures and subcultures DON'T have a moral or ethical "don't" for not being into them. Being in them causes no one harm.

Which does make it, in the end, about personal taste. And I find it very, very annoying when people make judgements of how other people are bad and wrong and need help based solely on personal taste. That's even WORSE than ragging on someone else's pairings or ships.

[lovefromgirl.livejournal.com]

When my depression took a turn for the worse six years ago and kept on plunging, nobody offline stuck around to see if I was okay. People I'd called friends since second grade suddenly stopped caring. It was the people I'd never met in person who kept me going until, finally, my parents got me some real help.

So... fandom did, in fact, save my life. Funny, huh?

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry if this sounds insensitive, but I find that interesting. I just wasn't ever sure if people did mean it literally, because I always thought it might sound terribly insensitive to ask the secret posters when they write things like that (and here I am, being insensitive all the same). It really just does always make me curious if they're just using a particular phrase, or if they really did mean it, because I've heard too many acquaintances who carelessly throw words around like that.

[lovefromgirl.livejournal.com]

It's okay to be curious. What with the number of Kids These Days who think depression and self-mutilation are just another trend, I'm getting cynical myself.

I wish that story were an exaggeration. As it is, thank gods it's over, and now I've found people who do care, both online and off. :-)