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⌈ Secret Post #2033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mortal Kombat]

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[The Young and the Restless]

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[Firefly, Joss Whedon; Sherlock BBC, Steven Moffat]

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08. http://i.imgur.com/Je2qV.png
[not really porny but implied underage sexual stuff; photomanip; snape/hermione]

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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Pokemon Black/White]

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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Kurau: Phantom Memory]

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15. [WARNING for rape]

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16. [WARNING for suicide]

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17. [WARNING for incest]

[Kono Naka ni Hikari, Imouto ga Iru!]

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18. [WARNING for animal death/abuse?]

[Eden Lake]

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Moffat's works have consistently been incredibly sexist in their portrayal and treatment of female characters, and his work on Doctor Who and the prior season of Sherlock have been no exceptions; his interviews and personal comments have also been very sexist.

I said before it aired that Moffat was going to "fuck it up" because he has a long history of fucking up every single female character he has ever written, up to and including forcing existing female characters on television shows he guest writes for out of character in ways that are sexist and forcing existing male characters out of character in order to have them treat said female characters in a sexist way (see: Doctor Who 2x04: The Girl in the Fireplace, 3x10: Blink, etc). I have literally never seen one single female character in anything he has written or been responsible for (that I have seen) who was not either incredibly sexist, or at the very least BOTH a background character and still problematic in some ways.

I think I have a right to say, "This guy has never written a female character who wasn't portrayed in a sexist way, so I don't think he'll suddenly start now."

It turns out I was right -- Moffat did fuck it up. His portrayal of Irene is so full of sexism that I can barely make it through the episode. It sucked. I'm sorry if you liked it, but it was sexist and horrible on that level.

and including forcing existing female characters ... out of character in ways that are sexist and forcing existing male characters out of character... (see: ... 3x10: Blink ...

Who was an existing character, male or female, that had any screentime of note in Blink? Martha and the Doctor are there for, like, 5 minutes, and everyone else was new/one-shot.

...uh, that was meant to be a question. Just for the record. Who was a pre-established character who got warped out of character to be sexist in Blink?

ayrt

The Doctor. The way he treats Martha is pretty abysmal, forcing her to work to support him in a time when she probably would have encountered at least some racism, sexism and hardship, while he apparently just tinkered around with stuff for a really long time and sent messages to Sally Sparrow.

I mean, he can be absent-minded, but he's not actually that much of a jerk. He'd realize that the whole "we need to eat and have some semblance of a roof over our heads" thing meant he needed to do something as well, even if it meant sonicking an ATM instead of getting a proper job.

And of course, there is a metric ton of sexism involved in the portrayal of Sally Sparrow and her friend, Moffat's original girls of the episode.

Given how often the Doctor's on Earth (and England, specifically), I'm not sure why he doesn't just carry money with him. Given that his pockets are bigger on the inside (or at least they were in old school Who--are they still doing that? I've watched the new series, but I cant recall an episode that's shown this), he could carry quite a lot...

What was sexist about the way Sally and her friend were portrayed? I love Blink and I've watched it several times, the latter few times knowing that it's considered extremely sexist by a lot of fans, so I looked for the sexism and still couldn't find it. And I've never seen anyone say why they find those characters' treatment sexist, they just do. Period.

ayrt

For them.. well, let me cite an article here because I don't really have a ton of time right now:

It's the way women are written as if they have absolutely no control over what happens in their life at all - and they're fine with that.

[...] Throughout the course of the episode, while remaining quite superhuman in the way she deals with every obstacle, [Sally is] firm about her disinterest in her unwitting sidekick Larry. And yet, once the adventure's over, she loops her arm through his, all done with saving the world and ready to run a shop. No explanation.

[...] Her friend Kathy makes a similarly nonsensical choice, when the Weeping Angels toss her back to 19th-century Hull and she finds herself alone in a field with a boy named Ben:

KATHY: Are you following me?

BEN: Yeah.

KATHY: Are you gonna stop following me?

BEN: No, I don't think so.

And then - marriage. Just like that.

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There's also the fact that Sally has really very little personality, except to be superhumanly able to withstand all the pressure and stress she's under and do whatever she needs to, etc. and to of course, throughout the episode, deny that she has interest in the main male character of the episode. Then of course -- oh yeah, out of nowhere, they're hooking up! Of course!

As for Sally's friend, well. Girl is transported back in time. Girl is stalked by guy. Girl... marries guy out of fucking nowhere and dies happily married to him!? Oh yeah. Sounds like a great romance.

Basically all the romances in "Blink" are horrible and based on the idea that women don't actually know what they want. The female characters have no actual agency -- no matter what they say or do, no matter how little they want to be in a relationship with these men, they have no say in the matter. A relationship will happen anyway, whether they like it or not. The men will persist until they give in, because what, does that silly girl honestly think she knows what she wants in a man? How dare she presume. Etc.

It's a rather nasty, but more subtle than usual way of Moffat showing that he has no respect for female agency and doesn't believe women can know what they want, and that men should act in a way that supersedes what women SAY they want because they know better. This shows up time and time again -- but most notably in season five's finale, with Amy's forced pregnancy and childbirth and the Doctor keeping it from her for ages that she's actually NOT Amy.

(Sourced article: Why Steven Moffat Isn't All That (http://io9.com/5022250/why-steven-moffat-isnt-all-that))

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