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Secrets, rants, opinions, anything you want to say about your fandom or a fandom or fandom in general, do it here! Anonymously, of course. Get it all off your chest.

Some ground rules:
1. Going anon is encouraged but not absolutely required (for those who struggle with captchas and stuff).
2. No autoplaying/autolooping embeds, or embeds that cover/stretch the screen.
3. No dropping personal info or IRL contact info, etc.

That's about it, though!

I'll be linking some general/general-fandom threads I see so people don't repost new threads with the same stuff.

Unpopular Ships
Obligatory Masturbation Thread
Fandoms you wish existed
How old are you?
What series have you always meant to watch/read/play/etc. but have never?
Time and location
Female-centric works
How do you feel about Tumblr?
Pet thread
Guilty pleasure thread
Favorite old shows
First fandom?

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Star Trek: Voyager. It's hugely flawed and I don't really enjoy it as sci-fi anymore, but it was my first fandom, dammit. ;_;

I also had the Nickelodeon GAS channel as a kid, so I really miss things like Legends of the Hidden Temple and GUTS even though I didn't see them when they originally aired.

Oh god Voyager and DS9 were my childhood. I haven't watched in so long but I can remember every character and most of the overarching plot lines.

I always love the characters that everyone else hates, though.
Who were your favorites?

I will always love Janeway! I love Kes, too, and I hated Seven for the longest time for replacing her, though that's completely reversed itself in recent years.

Love the EMH, too, and I blame him for my lifelong love of a good "AI finding humanity" subplot.

With you on Voyager. I'm almost scared to rewatch now that fandom has given me SJ goggles.

I'm curious: what about Voyager is incompatible with SJ goggles? Is there more than Kate Mulgrew being pro-life?

Chakotay. :|

AYRT

Chakotay, like above anon said. I read this one bit of meta that just tore the series apart. I miss being able to just WATCH THINGS.

Voyager. And also Deep Space Nine. I love those. In fact, they are both next on my list to re-watched. And I don't think Voyager was as flawed as people claim. Janeway was awesome. An B'Lanna. And Tuvok. And the Doctor. I loved both Kes and Seven. And while Neelix was never my favorite, I never found him as annoying as everyone seems to.

Not anon mostly because I hate not being able to track threads here on DW.

Sometimes I get nostalgic and try to defend Voyager to myself... and then I remember that Chakotay exists.

So there's... that.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what is wrong with Chakotay?

He's one of the worst examples of a stereotypical Native American that I've ever seen. I mean, the majority of his plot involvement involves vision questions or spirit animals or at the very least some piece of wisdom passed down from his ancestors...

I think Voyager would have been vastly improved if someone else had been the captain of the Maquis ship. B'Elanna maybe.

...yeah, two kickass female captains would definitely have been awesome.

I think you meant vision QUESTS, and as for spirit animals and wisdom from the elders, I think, CONSIDERING the fact that, yes, the Maquis were basically "Aboriginals --- IIIIINNNN SPAAAAAAAAACE" it was handled a whole lot better than it COULD have been. As in, those things are, like it or lump it, are actually a standard part of Generic North American "Native/First Nations Traditions."

I'm not saying that's a GOOD thing; I'm just saying, that stereotypes of the old religion are, unfortunately, all we've got left, instead of knowing how the old religion got our ancestors through their day-to-day lives. Because the Catholics and Protestants decided to not only conquer our lands they forced their Egyptian idol-god on us. Which isn't even actually Christian (but don't get me started on that), and now NO ONE knows for 100% certain, what the individual religions of each tribe (some of which have been extirpated) actually were.

So we end up with the "All Aboriginals are Anishinaabe" trope of vision quest, spirit animal, and wisdom of the grandfathers. The last of which is usually gleaned from trying to deconstruct the oral legends recorded by guys like Silas Rand, who "Christan-ified" the old wisdom when it said something that didn't appeal to the Protestant priest's repressed sensibilities.

TL;DR: I'd hate to see what the SJWs make of North of 60. Or even 8th Fire. Something tells me these whiny white privileged codependent brats (there's a reason why those are the only people they attack) have missed the mark so badly, they would probably call Wab Kinew (host of 8th Fire) an apple. But THAT'S not RACISM ohhhhhhh noooooo and "[insert emotionally immature profanity here] you if you say that it is" etc. etc.

Also! Your assertion that all of Chakotay's plots revolve around Bog Standard Generic Aboriginal religion are 100% false...as you would know, if you'd even watched a single episode of Voyager. Which I strongly doubt you have. So buh-bye little SJW, and thank you for playing, better luck next time.

IIRC the main fandom joke about Chakotay was that his piloting doomed shuttles. So yeah.

I love and still watch Voyager. It's on daily on the Space network in Canada.

http://fiveminute.net/ <- also might wanna check this place out.

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