[ SECRET POST #2041 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2041 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, I just hate the "You're not my REAL parents!" stupidity. They loved you and cared for you when, at least in this movie, they had every reason to drown your stupid ass. THEY ARE YOUR REAL PARENTS.

Every time genetics trumps an actual lifetime of love and support, I am inclined not to like the character. Other factors aside.

[i_paint_the_sky]

So Patrick Stewart Pharoah being a loving parent means Moses has to be okay with the new knowledge about his ordering children to be slaughtered, including Moses himself? Yeah ... no.

But Moses still always considered Ramses his brother. I'd say he significantly cared more about Ramses than either Miriam or Aaron, his biological siblings. Plus, IIRC, he was always close to/cared for his adoptive mother as well. Nice of you to overlook that part.

[(Anonymous)]

Except, IIRC, Pharaoh wasn't very supportive. Took him in, yes, but he cared little for Moses when Ramses around from what I recall.

Adoptive mom cared, but.

Also, he never said he gave no fucks about his adoptive family. He PLEADED with Ramses--MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES.

[(Anonymous)]

Clearly he cared about the people he was only related by blood more.

[wingedthing]

I always got the impression that Seti--at least movie!version--wasn't so much about caring for one son more than the other, but rather more about "Rameses is going to inherit the throne one day, so I have to make sure that I teach him to rule and treat him in a way that prepares him for the throne." From the few scenes you get of interaction between the three, at least... Seti listens to Moses' opinions on what might and might not help Rameses grow as a person and actually implements them, so there's that, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Except, Pharaoh did care for Moses - he tries to comfort Moses himself until he dropped the "they were only slaves" line. He also listens to Moses, even when he's rebuffed Rameses' attempts to speak to him. The movie also states, multiple times, that Pharaoh was harder on Rameses, and often punished him for what Moses started.

So, really, you can make the case that he was more demonstrative in his affections for Moses.

[wingedthing]

idk if it's as much a case of genetics > actual lifetime of love and support as it was a case of "this is a really complex situation."

I mean, in a period of 24 hours, Moses found out that he was adopted (SURPREIS), and he seemed to be dealing with it okay, especially after the talk he has with his mother (here; from 1:58). Still, even with that love and support, knowing that you've been raised with a silver spoon in your mouth solely because your adopted parents tried to murder you as an infant and still continue to enslave your people is pretty jarring, so he's staggered when he goes to join Rameses on the building field the next day. He actually notices the mistreatment of the Hebrew slaves for the first time, and probably because of a heavy dose of guilt plus being so jarred from the previous night's revelations, he goes to do something about it, and accidentally kills a man.

So he's got a lot going on there, but it's not about genetics. It's about Moses himself. Can he really stand by anymore and continue to enslave these people? What if his continued presence causes problems? Is it really okay to be absolved of all responsibility for killing a man just because you're pharaoh's kid? Things like that.

Theoretically, you could take away the blood > bond stuff and still tell the same story, with some minor tweaks, but well... they were going off of source material. Granted, the source material had Moses knowing all along that he was a Hebrew and not actually part of pharaoh's family, but. Details.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. SWEET MOTHER OF ALL THAT IS HOLY THIS.

Thank you for saying so eloquently what I've spent this thread thinking.

[(Anonymous)]

The way it come off to me was that it was less you're not my real parents and more oh, you wanted me dead.