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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-04 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2041 ]


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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-05 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, hadn't heard of those ones before. Seems about the standard: charismatic leader who eventually goes power-mad and starts molesting the girl-children, paranoid preparation for the apocalypse which is supposed to happen on a certain date, which gets pushed back or explained away....

You know, one of the weird things about cults is how similar they are, when you get right down to it. You think you're such a special snowflake when you're in it, and for the first few years of getting out of it, but then you see 500 variations of the same bullshit.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-05 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
The wiki is laughably sparse about all the crap that went down there but, yeah, they don't exactly get points for originality.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-05 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Let me guess: leader gets random ideas about how you should eat, dress, or wipe your ass, and the next thing you know, you're all doing it because that's obviously the only way it could be done, highly regimented and scheduled, never a moment to yourself, physical abuse of children is standard punishment, sexual abuse of the girls happening discretely by whichever of the male adults have a thing for the kiddies, a shit ton of memorizing the cult literature and reciting it like little parrots, etc?

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-05 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much all this and more with the sexual abuse not being limited to girls and viciously horrific justifications and instilling heaps of guilt and self hatred in children.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-05 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, the Judeo-Christian cults tend to be pretty homophobic, which keeps the men away from the boys and the women don't sexually abuse as much, for some reason. How'd they change that? And viciously horrific justifications? Ours were just what you'd see on NAMBLA or something, you know, all "It's love and love is a beautiful thing and you want to make [whoever] happy, don't you?" plus a deeply enforced concept of adults always being right and to be obeyed at all costs, not to mention most kids being desperate for any protection/attention/affection, no matter the cost. Sickeningly wrong and saccharine, but nothing I'd call vicious.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
> "It's love and love is a beautiful thing and you want to make [whoever] happy, don't you?" plus a deeply enforced concept of adults always being right and to be obeyed at all costs

sad thing is, this passive aggressive bullshit aint limited to cults

my ethnic culture emphasizes obedience and the "great wisdom of the elders"

lets just say some peoples wisdoms were crap

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-05 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh they were homophobic as hell. Male-on-male rape was considered deserved if it happened for the boy not being righteous or masculine enough and a myriad of other justifications that make me sick to think of. In fact the man who raped his daughter had been molested and raped repeatedly by different men as a child and generally spent his adulthood being as much of an asshole as he could to women to "prove" how much of a man he was.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-05 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus. That's fucked up even by cultist standards.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-05 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't really acknowledged or promoted outside of whispering about the victims so I guess I always assumed other cults had some of that as well.

Or maybe I just lucked out and grew up in a particularly twisted cult. I mean the mandatory "X-rated sermon series" with bonus bullshit science that were mandatory could give me enough for a book.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-05 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
Well, should the leader wake up with a boner and decide that since he's stuck his dick in every female over 14 in his house, he might as well expand his horizons, no one's going to say shit. But most cults have the standard Catholic/Sandusky issue, where a small minority are pedos, but no one else is going to bring it up or stop it, because that would be airing the dirty laundry and possibly making an important person look bad, so most targeted kids didn't really have any way to get help. Less victim-blaming of the kids, from what I've observed, and usually men molesting boys gets stopped because that's "gay." And the fewer molested boys actually does make it better for the girls, because those boys don't feel as obligated to be predators themselves, to girls and women in order to differentiate themselves from "prey." So no, you got a shitty one, even by cult standards.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-05 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yay.


Ugh.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. You just described my entire childhood.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] visp 2012-08-06 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
What can I say, people are not only shits but rarely unique in their shittery.