[ SECRET POST #2044 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2044 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yamato nadeshiko Shichi Henge/Perfect Girl Evolution]


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03.
[Suits]


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04.
[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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05.
[Yamato nadeshiko Shichi Henge]


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06.
[Sherlock BBC]


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[Homestuck]


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08.
[Sherlock]


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09.
[Stargate Atlantis]


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10.
[Cyborg 009]


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[The Amazing Spiderman]


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12.
[Stargate Universe]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[Bunheads/Game of Thrones]


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15.
[thesyndicateproject (youtube)]


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[Codex Alera]


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[Wishbone]


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18.
[The Game OverThinker]


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19.
[K-ON!]


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20.
[Magical Diary]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #292.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[countess_k]

I wished I had read Homestuck and knew what black flirting meant. I have the same problem. I get too obsessed with arguing online even when those I argue with are obvious trolls.

[threeonetwo]

The trolls in the comic have a concept of platonic/romantic hate, just like we have platonic/romantic love. Think epic lifelong rivals who completely and utterly hate each other, and add amazing FoeYay/hatesex/whathaveyou. I think. I haven't read it either, but I've been told a lot about the concepts and stuff. Ok, here's two fanarts(Second one has bad language and I think electrocution?)

http://saffronscarf.deviantart.com/art/Candle-Light-Hate-Date-164344242

http://atomicfireball.deviantart.com/art/Friiend2-wiith-Detriiment2-204460082

[(Anonymous)]

It's Foe Yay, basically. There's this concept in Homestuck of four types of love and kismesissitude is when you abso-fucking-lutely hate someone and they hate you just as much but the hate has a sexual/romantic bent. You can't kill each other because your kismesis is sexually compatible, but you also can't stop fighting and hating each other.

Harry Potter and Voldemort would be an example of kismessitude.

I can't keep this from tl;dr orz

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Harry Potter and Voldemort would be an example of kismessitude.

I like the way you think. :D

Re: I can't keep this from tl;dr orz

[(Anonymous)]

Oops, sorry about the subject line.

[(Anonymous)]

wait, so, i am not the only person who muses on troll-style relationships among fictional characters from vastly different stories??? rock on, anon! =]

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Yeah what the people above me said.

It's basically a serious, committed, consensual (as far as I can tell vov), monogamous hate-sex relationship where the two persons (trolls) involved hate each other so passionately that it's romantic, and they keep this delicate balance between hurting each other (emotionally, physically, verbally, psychologically, anything goes) but not killing or going too far. Like, if you crossed the line, the hate would stop being romantic and become platonic and then the other troll might kill you for real because they don't care about you anymore.

It's a very violent society, so even actual relationships can be shattered ridiculously easily, and you need to work hard to get and maintain allies of any kind, even your lovers.

And because of the tyrannical empire the trolls live in, they have to reproduce or die, so they NEED to find someone to be their hatesex buddy and then another one to be their more "normal" lover (the closest thing they have to the concept of human romance), for reproduction purposes, and then a BFF of sorts that keeps them from doing stupid stuff out of anger that might get them killed and whom they protect in return (there seems to be a more aggressive and a more passive partner in this "quadrant"), and then either find or be themselves a mediator to other trolls who are hateflirting on accident with someone other than their hatesex buddy.

The first two are vital because they're sexual and they need to present their genetic material to the empire when they come to collect it and if they don't comply they are killed for it.

If it sounds convoluted, that's because it was written that way on purpose by the author who loves to troll his audience.

[(Anonymous)]

Also note that their flushed (<3) quadrant isn't really love, so much as it is /pity/.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I initially had that in the explanation, but I realized that made it even more complicated so I took it out.

But yeah, because being strong, powerful and clever are important traits to survive, actual "love-love" isn't accepted, but "gosh, you would die without me, how pathetic, I guess I'll have to protect you, you dimwit <3" is accepted.

KIND OF SPOILERS




However, the way the troll civilization is as we know it right now is artificial, and was molded into that warrior-savagery form on purpose through the centuries by external forces, so you can see that, despite all that aggression and mistrust being the norm, the trolls we are familiar with (who aren't adults yet and are still struggling to find their place in life) show that they can care for real and have genuine affection for some people.

It makes one wonder how much of the whole pity/hate thing is actually intrinsic to their species and how much was just accepted as "the way things are, so might as well do it and not get horribly killed".

I remember this being mentioned somewhere (maybe the wiki), but the whole kismessitude (spelling?) (the hatesex quadrant) has never ended up well for anyone, and it is very possible that it, along with the whole quadrant thing, was introduced as a method of population control, because, honestly? The external forces I mentioned have introduced even more and more terrible measures that appear to be just for control and to keep everyone from uprising against the Empire.