[ SECRET POST #2046 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2046 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so are people offended by the concept, or is it just presented very poorly?


Because Ursula Le Guin did something in her sci-fi series where the lighter-skinned people were slaves and the darker-skinned people were in power, but nobody had a problem with that, if I remember correctly.

[(Anonymous)]

That's Four Ways to Forgiveness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Ways_to_Forgiveness), "A Woman's Liberation". And in The Birthday of the World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birthday_of_the_World), "Old Music and the Slave Women".

[mekkio]

For me, it's presented poorly. Very poorly. The idea is a rich goldmine of potential. You could explore the ideas of color and nationality and how they fit in terms of status and beauty. As well as the government's role in all of this. Sort of like 1984 meets Brave New World told through the lens of Black like Me.

Instead, you have a shallow book.

That is what ticks me off the most. The wasted potential.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, that makes sense. I agree with you, the concept itself could be very thought-proving if done correctly.
If you are interested in something like that, you could try those Ursula Le Guin stories, if you haven't read. I think she handles social issues very well, personally.

[habilelapin]

That's because Le Guin possesses the trait known as 'talent'. She's actually a good writer who tries to create well-structured, meaningful books that take place in worlds that follow their own rules and make sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Very true! She's one of my favourite authors.

[(Anonymous)]

Offering more praise for Ursula Le Guin here. I think she's one of the best authors anywhere at writing POC characters, and she obviously thinks through all the social issues she brings up.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Forgot to mention - Le Guin actually had a white-is-the-minority situation in Earthsea: Tenar a white woman who ended up emigrating to a society where just about everyone was ambiguously brown. To be fair, Earthsea didn't have the same implications of "white" "brown" and "black" that our society does; but I think it's still worth bringing up here because part of why she wrote Earthsea the way she did was because she was sick of seeing White Heroes in all the other SF/F of the time.

[anonymouslyyours]

If you read the book it comes across like the author just wanted to write a book about how precious being white is.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, that's sucks. Won't be reading that one.
If that's the case it's getting the reaction it deserves.
I'm betting it didn't even acknowledge anyone outside the black/white spectrum (Asians, Indigenous Peoples), did it?

[anonymouslyyours]

It did to mention how much lower whites are considered to Ambers (Asians) and Tiger Eyes (Latino I think?).

And then there was the "Portuguese is the same thing as Spanish" fail.

I started skimming around the time they were off in the Amazon tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

It's presented poorly- shockingly so.

I love Noughts and Crosses- which is the idea of reverse racism explored fully. This was just awful.

First the Pearls/Coal thing which just- no. Not even for all the pearl necklace jokes.

Secondly was that the author herself said it was presented as a 'Beauty and the Beast' story between the main white character and a black man. Guess who's the beast in the story? Yeah, the black guy. Because nevermind that they're considered superior- the author simultaneously presents them as something 'savage' that needs to be tamed by the precious white maiden. Ugh.

The author is a racist, pure and simple, even if she doesn't realise it. She's one of those horrible patronising ones.
One of her comments on her website was that how 'surprised and delighted' she was that no-one 'minded' the mix-race pairing.
It's like- yeah- that's because we're not fucking douchebags like you. It shouldn't fucking matter. Christ.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm mixed-race, it's hasn't been an issue with anyone I've met so far. It's pretty sad if she stills thinks that stuff is still super taboo. This lady sounds pretty douche-y.

[streetcake]

Don't forget her comment "Conceivably, if the book had not reached the African-American community of readers, if such a category still exists, perhaps there might be some backlash."

If such a category still exists

The concept of this book could never be properly explored by someone like this.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait.

Wait.

Hold on.

Huh.

Okay.

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKSTICKY FUCK?

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, I think most people are interpreting this as "black people can't read" when she meant "because we're such a ~postracial society~ that there are no categories of readers!"

[toshi_hakari]

I'm also annoyed by the: "ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WOULD GET UPSET ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF THIS BOOK"... like, it seems she was trying to hide this from the African-American community and thought no white person would ever accuse her of being racist, which is a whole other can of worms.

[tcex28]

I heard that the "beast" is such because he actually becomes some kind of furry creature?

I don't even know with this thing.

Yup.

[anonymouslyyours]

http://jedifreac.tumblr.com/post/28244327721/so-save-the-pearls-author-victoria-foyt-actually

[(Anonymous)]

Malorie Blackman's 'Noughts and Crosses' was great too.