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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-19 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2056 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2056 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I read until she got turned, and then I kind of lost interest. I did enjoy it a bit in the beginning, but then the plot took a turn for the wtf. Not to mention that it's just too obviously a Twilight critique. And in case you forgot, the next sentence will certainly remind you of that. Because almost every sentence felt like the author saying, "Look how unlike T!Bella she is! There's this hypothetical thing she could do (that T!Bella did) but she doesn't do it because she's so smart, unlike T!Bella!".

It's not as bad as HP and the Methods of Rationality in that aspect, but it could still get rather annoying.
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[personal profile] shinyhappypanic 2012-08-19 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I noticed that too. It was so obvious I lost interest fairly quickly.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
In Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, I found those "take that" moments hilarious, because they sometimes revealed a complete misunderstanding of what had actually happened and why in the actual books. It's like, I'd give you a pass, but you've written this whole screed about how smart you are and how this thing is stupid, and you didn't even understand it.

Not having read "Twilight", I don't know if the "Luminosity" takes are as ridic.

this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
ikr?

DEMENTORS ARE DEATH *invisibility cloak bypass lolololol*

NO, THEY REPRESENT DEPRESSION, YOU ARROGANT DOLT

He admits he didn't read the last book (or maybe the last 2 books, I don't remember exactly), but someone found out that it was actually about half the series (I think he stopped after PoA?)

What infuriates me is that he doesn't give a shit about the series; he admitted somewhere in the maze (if he hasn't deleted that comment yet) that is his website that he choose Harry Potter because it had such a huge fan following and he wanted a lot of feedback to get motivated enough to get back to work on his own original stuff because he had a writer's block of sorts.

He just went and picked what he thought would give him the easiest and biggest audience, basically, and didn't even do all the research!


I haven't read the Twilight series either so I don't know about canon veracity, but at least I don't get the same high levels of insufferable smug "I am genius and rational and you're not, you silly person you, let me educate you~~" vibes from Luminosity, not compared to MoR.

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I even thought his comments on quidditch were stupid. We know that Harry's games are typically shorter than normal quidditch games, because Harry catches the snitch unusually fast, and yet we still saw quidditch games in which points from goals were significant in who won. In longer games, goals scored would be more significant and the snitch less so. And then, we are shown that points from goals make a huge difference in terms of position in the tournament, and so control who wins the cup. There is at least one game in which Harry has to hold off on catching the snitch until his team can get enough goals relative to the other team, or he will lose the Cup.

But does "Rationality" Harry see that? No, he just says it's stupid and makes no sense.

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like the author has a hate-boner for indulgent fun that doesn't involve intellectual pursuits or ~clever~ jokes.

...No wait, it probably is that. O_O

And the point of Quidditch was that it was supposed to be whimsical; with rules that made just enough sense -like the scoring system you mentioned- to make it genuinely exciting for the reader, but just enough nonsense to make it fun (there are heavy balls smacking unwary players around! and you have to chase a super fast small golden object!).

OTL

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, the entire series is supposed to be whimsical and to a certain extent "illogical". If you science it up, you're missing the point.

At the very least, he could have dropped the pretense and called the fic "My Self-Insert and the Methods of Rationality" because his Harry doesn't have anything in common with canon!Harry. It starts at the very beginning: by not making Harry's childhood abusive (also, Potter-Evans-Verres, or in whatever order it was? Trying too hard) you're already taking away a big part of what shaped his character. And then you try to turn him into Hermione?

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
He goes out of his way to clarify in the author's notes that he doesn't share all of Prof. Quirrell's and Harry's opinions and that they sometimes get it wrong, just to cover his ass.

Being wrong about something? Having a bad opinion? Perish the thought!

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And to make myself look like even more of a geek and a pedant, it annoyed me that in a story that spends quite some time on exploring the rules of magic, McGonagall uses "wingardium leviosa" to levitate a human rather than "levicorpus". I mean, Harry in MoR even comments on how silly it sounds and wonders who made it up: if you look up the components, it pretty clearly refers to making a feather light. That's why, with the exception of panicky first-year students who don't understand how it works, nobody uses the charm to levitate other things. We see "levicorpus" for floating a body, and (if I recall correctly) "leviarbus" for floating a tree (it might have been "mobiliarbus" for moving a tree).

Again, generally I don't care if people don't notice this stuff, but if you're making a big deal about how you're being so smart and rationally exploring how the Harry Potter universe works, you could do some research into how the Harry Potter universe works.

Re: this jerk, ugh

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
He could have at least looked the roots of the words up in a Latin dictionary (online!) if he didn't recognise them from other languages.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-19 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"but then the plot took a turn for the wtf."

I still lol at the whole empress of the universe or whatever.