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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-22 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2059 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2059 ⌋

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dazzledfirestar: (Default)

[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2012-08-22 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously everyone's said most of what can be said about your shitty attitude and how maybe you should do some self-examination about it. Btw, I'm a non-native speaker too and I did just fine because I learned English early on. There are factors you don't know for everyone that has or is learning this language.

That being said... is your beta talking to you while cutting chunks out of your story or just doing it willy nilly because... WOW! Not cool. Make a note, say "Hey, this really drags things down" or "this really interrupts the flow, maybe you should cut it" but to flat out delete? That's cold.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-23 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that's how it goes in the real world. If your agent or your editor wants something gone, then it's gone -- period.

Sure, fanfic is different. But anyone who aspires to be a writer needs to get used to that sort of thing.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2012-08-23 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I am aware of that, but as the OP did not state they were working toward writing professionally, I didn't think that rule applied.

That being said, if the beta won't tell you why they think such and such a passage isn't working, how much are you learning as a writer from the process? There could be any number of reasons to want to cut something out, and playing a guessing game seems a waste of time. Beta reading is not professional editing by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a useful tool to figure out what you might need to improve on. If you aren't getting that information, what's the point?

(Anonymous) 2012-08-23 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
That is a valid point. If they want something to be cut, then they definitely need to be giving feedback as to why they want that.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-23 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends how harsh a beta they have or what OP has asked for. I know some betas who take your approach (I've one, then tend to use track changes a lot so things can be rejected by me) but likewise i know some writers who'd love a beta like that.

I personally wouldn't, it made me very uncomfortable when one beta cut and pasted and changed my fic making it more grammatically correct but broke the flow of the story and made the character's thoughts too stilted. Perhaps OP if you don't like you should think about another beta? Sounds like you might also be taikng your frustrations out on others...