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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-24 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2061 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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02.
[tales of symphonia]


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03.
[The Girl From Tomorrow]


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04.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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05.
[Lamento -Beyond the Void-]


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06.
[Aidan Gillen]


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07.
[Skyrim]


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08.
[Touhou Project]


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09.
[Total Recall]


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10.
[Castle]



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11.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]













12. [SPOILERS for the Dark Knight Rises]



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13. [SPOILERS for Digimon 02]



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14. [SPOILERS for the Borgias]



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15. [SPOILERS for Tales of Symphonia]



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16. [SPOILERS for asoiaf/game of thrones]



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17. [SPOILERS for A Dance With Dragons]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape, child abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #294.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be produced without hurting real children, but it's not unheard of for pedophiles to use child porn to groom their victims ("look, it's okay, the child there is doing it too")

Oh god, and they're doing it through Facebook! FACEBOOK IS A VECTOR FOR CHILD PORN! BAN THIS SICK FILTH! WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

Association fallacy, you just walked into it. Paedophiles using loli/shota material as a tool for abuse doesn't make the material itself automatically wrong. It makes the paedophiles wrong.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
When a significant amount of it is created by the pedophiles just for that purpose? Yes, it's fucking wrong.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Got some stats on that? How many loli/shota mangaka are practicing pedophiles? Inquiring minds want to know.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not talking about manga authors. I mean the amateur stuff that gets posted to places like /b/. A lot of that shit is created with the intent of luring in victims.
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Re: tw for child abuse

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-08-24 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
well, if an anon says it, it must be true!

I mean, holy shit, you are making some big claims with like, zero anything to back it up.

Also... couldn't regular old porn be used for a similarly horrible purpose?
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Re: tw for child abuse

[personal profile] andthenithappened 2012-08-25 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
With all due respect, /b/ is notorious for people doing/posting terrible things solely for attention. It's also not a place that most people of any age would willingly venture to.

Are there any mainstream authors/portals that are doing this?

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
You're in a thread talking about loli/shota and replying to a comment dealing with loli/shota. You're expected to be talking about loli/shota, and if you aren't, then to specify what you actually mean.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you even know that? Can you provide us with some citations or statistics proving that the majority of child porn is meant to groom children and not just for people to fap to in private (probably while feeling ashamed about it?)

No, because you are full of shit.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you fap to that shit at all, there's something terribly, terribly wrong with you, so the point is kind of moot anyway.

But hey, I expect nothing less from you.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't? I guess you missed the part of this thread where I said that I was the victim of statutory rape?

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
da

and that is terrible and I'm sorry you went through it, but that's not an excuse

a reason, maybe, but not an excuse nor a defense
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I never said it was an excuse? Just that I don't fap to child porn?

Go back and read the comment I was replying to. Close some of your tabs or something

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
So was I. Your point being?
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
That I don't fap to child porn? Read the comment I was replying to

This person seems to think that because I'm defending the legality of shota/loli, that I like it and fap to it or something. That's completely awful logic right there.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
And if you think no victim would ever fap to child porn and then go preying on children themselves, you really are an idiot.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ok? I never said that. Certainly there are plenty of people who do that, but I don't think enough to warrant the ban of shota/loli. I think more people fap to it as a way to get through their fucked up desires that they have as a result from being horrible abused

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Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
And the people buying it too. Why do you even want to read porn of fictional children?

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
i just want to say to you and most of the other people on this thread:

GO TO COLLEGE

(and if you have gone...go again. you missed the point.)

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand what you mean.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Because everyone has the money to spend on college, amirite?

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they're hoping that being in college would take up too much time to be able to spend hours on fandom secrets threads, and it will thin things up around here? If so, they're doomed to disappointment. People will always find time for Arguing on the Internet.
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Re: tw for child abuse

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-08-25 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
College kid right here. Spending my Friday evenings (after playing YGO with friends) in my apartment with beer, ice cream, cookies, and Fandom Secrets. :D
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Re: tw for child abuse

[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-08-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
*blinks*

what?

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-26 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA, I totally agree.

Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-26 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Have some Earth Logic(TM):

Preventing the pedos from accessing cartoon CP (with a diversionary name on it to make it *seem* like it's not cartoon CP) by stopping people from creating cartoon CP in the first place, either through enforcement or societal pressure, or discouraging the "fans" of this stuff through social activism or societal pressure, might actually save one child from being given one of these magazines and told what they're being asked to do/engage with is somehow OK.

Which is not a pearl-clutching THINK OF THE CHILDREN screed. It's commonsense. This cartoon CP is just as bad as having a box of weapons out in the open with "FREE -- TAKE ONE" written on the box.

Also IT IS STILL CP.