[ SECRET POST #2061 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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02.
[tales of symphonia]


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03.
[The Girl From Tomorrow]


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04.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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05.
[Lamento -Beyond the Void-]


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06.
[Aidan Gillen]


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07.
[Skyrim]


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08.
[Touhou Project]


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09.
[Total Recall]


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10.
[Castle]



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11.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]













12. [SPOILERS for the Dark Knight Rises]



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13. [SPOILERS for Digimon 02]



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14. [SPOILERS for the Borgias]



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15. [SPOILERS for Tales of Symphonia]



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16. [SPOILERS for asoiaf/game of thrones]



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17. [SPOILERS for A Dance With Dragons]



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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]














18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape, child abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #294.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[dazzledfirestar]

EDs are horrible things to have to live with. There is no doubt about that on any level.

But there's most likely a far deeper cause than growing up on comics. I did it, thousands of people did and did not develop EDs. Nobody "gets" an ED from a tv show or comic or movie. That might give them the unhealthy image to shoot for, but the issues under WHY they need so badly to achieve that unrealistic goal have nothing to do with the media itself. There's far more to it than that and if you think that's all there is to it, I think you've got some serious blinders on.

As stated, it's a mental illness. If the comics/movies/tv shows didn't trigger this, something else could have.

[logicbutton]

Even though it's true that cigarettes kill you, you can die from anything, so why not smoke three packs a day?

Also, maybe you were an extremely skeptical child, but most of us are/were highly impressionable. I remember getting all kinds of weird ideas about what "normal" meant from things I watched or read, offhand comments my parents made (and probably forgot making immediately), and god knows what else. I can totally imagine seeing stats like that on a card and accepting them into my personal canon for what a grown-up woman is supposed to be. If I had been susceptible to eating disorders as well, this secret might have been mine. People need to remember these things when creating media that attract children. It's just the responsible thing to do.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

+1

Children are incredibly susceptible; I don't understand why so many people disregard this. Maybe it's because we dislike feeling like we're being controlled by outside influences?

[logicbutton]

I think people just forget what it's like to be a kid. I'm always catching myself saying things to my friends' kids that I remember adults saying to me at their age and that really bothered or confused me back then. I forget how on-the-spot I felt, and how sometimes everyone would laugh at my answer to their question no matter what it was. We're all in such a hurry to grow up and know everything so people will take us seriously that we'll take the first opportunity to ditch those memories of what it was like to know nothing.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

Well said.

[dazzledfirestar]

You have a word in there that is very important. IF. IF you were susceptible. I am not saying that this isn't a factor. Everyone picks up strange ideas as kids. What I'm saying is that ignoring the base factor--in this case, the OP's own susceptibility--can be more harmful than not.

We as a society do need to be aware and responsible for what our kids think is acceptable, but saying "I got sick because of a TV show" will not help anyone get better.

[logicbutton]

I also said that I may well have accepted the stats as truth - that women who looked like that had those numbers. (In fact, I'm sure I would have.) Eating disorders aren't the only risk in feeding information like that to kids. Hell, not even just kids; IME plenty of grown-ass men have strange ideas about what women weigh. That kind of thing is harmful to everyone on so many levels, and for what? What is the point of telling people what a character weighs in the first place, when that particular statistic is so semantically loaded and influenced by so many variables? The risks (of which eating disorders are only the most serious) of inventing numbers to assign to characters like that are just so much greater than the benefits.

[dazzledfirestar]

You're also looking at something that came out at least fifteen years ago. I am not disagreeing that it is ridiculous or safe to do this. In fact at that point this garbage was marketed to young boys and men (because GASP girls don't read comics!), which also fed the ideas you are talking about. I am not disagreeing with you. What I am saying is that with EDs it is never that simple.

The OP was discussing EDs, so that was what I commented on. You are right. This "pull a random number" idea that Marvel had then (and still has because it's very much the boys club) is dangerous and bullshit. But over simplifying the problem is not doing anyone any favors either.

[logicbutton]

Oh, for sure, what's done is done when it comes to stuff from that long ago. I don't disagree with you that EDs are complex, either - I don't believe for a second that OP would have been issue-free if not for that Rogue trading card. But if she was able to identify it as a trigger, that's huge, and my point was that it's important to recognize it as such, even as we acknowledge her illness's complexity.