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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-24 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2061 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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02.
[tales of symphonia]


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03.
[The Girl From Tomorrow]


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04.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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05.
[Lamento -Beyond the Void-]


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06.
[Aidan Gillen]


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07.
[Skyrim]


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08.
[Touhou Project]


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09.
[Total Recall]


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10.
[Castle]



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11.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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12. [SPOILERS for the Dark Knight Rises]



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13. [SPOILERS for Digimon 02]



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14. [SPOILERS for the Borgias]



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15. [SPOILERS for Tales of Symphonia]



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16. [SPOILERS for asoiaf/game of thrones]



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17. [SPOILERS for A Dance With Dragons]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape, child abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #294.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] douleur 2012-08-25 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
LAMENTOOOOO <3 <3 <3

All right, now that's out of my system. I suppose I kind of agree? I never really thought about it before, but now that you mention it, it does seem kind of odd that Tokino doesn't have his own route. I mean, Nitro+Chiral does a pretty good job of doing new, interesting things, but even they're pretty consistent with the Childhood Friend trope (Togainu no Chi-Keisuke, Dramatical Murder-Koujaku, maybe Sweet Pool-Makoto? I can't remember how long he was friends with Youji, and to be fair SP is just so different that maybe it can't really be compared to the others). In some ways, having a Tokino route would actually make more sense (four love interests, four devils), although that would require forging some link between Tokino and Razel (if we're keeping with there being a devil connection with each cat).

Though when all's said and done, I kind of agree with [personal profile] chambery about liking that Konoe has a good friend and a separate love interest at the same time. I really like that Nitro+Chiral consistently has important characters who aren't love interests, and Tokino fits that role perfectly in Lamento.

tl;dr I agree that the game stands on its own just fine without a Tokino route (heck, it's my favorite visual novel), but I definitely don't blame you for being surprised that there isn't one.
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[personal profile] chambery 2012-08-25 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, it's Konoe himself that's meant to correspond with Wrath, as far as four-for-four goes. But again, I thought the same before I realized...!

also hello, another fan!
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[personal profile] douleur 2012-08-25 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I figured as much, but part of me still doesn't buy it--Konoe and Razel don't have the same correspondence as the other three have with their devil counterparts, the Razel-specific end is kind of tacked on way early in the storyline, that kind of thing. In that respect, I think it would make sense to have Razel and Tokino have some connection, equivalent to the other three's connections with their corresponding devils, and have Konoe be the linchpin, the one who's at the center of it all and who brings together the otherwise divergent elements.

Obviously not the way the story actually went, but the more I think about it, the more I'd love to see that as an AU. Though I actually don't care much for Razel, so I don't mind that he doesn't have his own big deal.

So psyched that there are other English-speaking Lamento fans! It definitely does not get enough love. <3
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[personal profile] chambery 2012-08-25 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
A few of us exist, yep!

It's true that the others have more immediate relationships to their patrons, though I have trouble connecting Tokino to Razel's particular vice? He doesn't have a vengeful bone in his body by the looks of it - while early on Konoe does have moments when he's downright incensed and has to calm down, like after his first run-in with Firi (it's just digging through so much text that makes it tough to notice, I think). But the way the others do with their problems, he does his best to keep himself in check. Razel's end coming first means Konoe falls to his own weakness - getting fed up too easily, while with the other endings he gets to grow much more in between....

wow I'm really veering off the point of this secret, whoops.

(I have to admit, I do like Razel a good deal so sorry if my bias is screaming ;; Also thinking further, if anyone brings the eight of them together it's Leaks, but WOW I won't start - it's almost 3 am, hello )

If more can be found out about Tokino, though, I'd be glad to see where he'd fit, too (it's almost like HP sorting, down to the colors - )! He's just so... sweet and happy, it's hard to, sob.